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RRSP Loan Strategy

What is an RRSP Loan?  It’s a loan, typically offered at prime, that allows the borrower to contribute to their RRSP using the banks money.  The upside is that the borrower gets the tax refund in a few months, the downside is that the borrower is stuck with a loan that is paid out of cash flow.

To be upfront with you, I’m not a big fan of RRSP loans.  The only way that I would consider a RRSP loan is if the total tax return would cover the WHOLE loan.

In other words,  I would only borrow to “top up” my contribution (if I had the contribution room) so that my tax refund will be enough to pay off the underlying loan.

Below is some boring math that I figured out.  For those of you who bore easily, skip to the final equation.

RRSP Loan Amount (RL) = Total Tax Refund (TR)

TR = RRSP Contributions (RC) x Marginal Rate (MR) + RL x MR

Since we want:  RL = TR

RL = (RC x MR) + (RL x MR)

RL – (RL x MR) = RC x MR

RL (1-MR) = RC x MR

RL= RC x MR/ (1-MR)

In plain English:

RRSP Loan = (RRSP Contribution x Marginal Rate) / (1 – Marginal Rate) 

So to use this equation, say you contributed $5k to your RRSP this year @ 40% marginal rate.  If you have the contribution room and considering using a RRSP loan, I would only get an RRSP loan the size of the tax refund.

Therefore,

RRSP loan = $5k x 0.40/ (1-0.40) = $3333

Working backwards:

Tax Refund = ($5K x 0.40) + ($3333 x 0.40) = $3333

This strategy works best if you initiate the loan/contribution just before the RRSP contribution deadline (Feb 29, 2008) as it would minimize the interest costs.  Note that the above formula does not account for the loan servicing costs incurred over the few months while waiting for the tax refund.

To further reduce interest costs, consider a 12 month, 0% interest credit card as your RRSP loan.  Basically

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  • Four Pillars February 11, 2008, 8:12 am

    I agree with you – other than for the purpose of “forced savings”, there isn’t any benefit for the normal investor.

    There are some special situations where it makes sense such as if you are about to retire and have some room or if you are taking a year off and want to buy more rrsps at a higher marginal rate and then cash them in the following year (when you are not working). Just a thought.

    Mike

  • George February 11, 2008, 10:05 am

    I’ve used RRSP loans in the past (actually, I just borrowed a bit from our line of credit), but the loan was paid off within a month or two of receiving the tax refund; the total interest costs were pretty minor – easily under $50.

    As to your comment about waiting for the refund, who still waits “months” for a tax refund anymore? I’ve used Netfile for the past five years or so, and every time I’ve received my refund within 10 days after filing, sometimes even sooner!

  • WhereDoesAllMyMoneyGo.com February 11, 2008, 11:54 am

    I would add a word of caution when using marginal tax rates for calculating your RRSP refunds. Some tax brackets are very shallow (for example, the 39.41% tax bracket in Ontario only exists between 73,623 and 74,357. The next tax bracket down is 35.39%.

    Here’s an example of how this can catch you out:

    Let’s say an Ontarian earns $75,000/year. If they made a $5,000 contribution to their RRSP one might be tempted to look at their marginal tax rate of 43.41% and multiply that by $5,000 to yield: $2,170.50 tax refund. But since contributing $5,000 will drop them down two tax brackets their actual refund would be closer to $1,826.

  • nobleea February 11, 2008, 12:28 pm

    I guess it depends on the difference between your loan interest rate and the rate of return you get in your rrsp.

    I’ve sometimes thought that it is better to take an rrsp loan out that would be paid off in the year. For example, if you contribute $500 a month to your rrsp, then get a $6000 loan and by the end of the year, it will be paid off from your monthly contributions (except your monthly contributions are now loan repayments instead). The benefit is that the whole money has a chance to grow for the full year, rather than just a bit if the year if it were invested gradually. If the rrsp rate of return was the same as your loan rate, then you’d be behind (aside from getting the tax refund a year early). There’s some rrsp rate of return at which point it would make sense. I don’t know what it is, probably 8%. (correction, after doing a quick spreadsheet, i think it’s around 1% above your loan rate)

  • Anna February 11, 2008, 12:45 pm

    I am facing a situation where I have about $6,000 tax bill due to the capital gains on the mutual fund I own. This is after my RRSP contribution of $13,000 for the year. Unfortunately I am short on cash as I am getting married in May of this year and most of my money is being eaten up by the wedding… So, the best thing in my situation is to take our RRSP loan to eliminate tax liability (since I have a lot of unused RRSP room) and then pay it off by July, after the wedding. Any thoughts? I am in the highest tax bracket.

  • CheapCanuck February 11, 2008, 1:11 pm

    I would argue that RRSPs loans are pretty useless in general. I guess if one would normally blow their refund rather than putting it back into your RRSPs then it can act as a forced savings plan. But, on the other side of the coin, one might still end up blowing the refund and wind up paying interest on the loan for several more months. For those who make regular contributions and would normally reinvest their refunds anyways it doesn’t make sense either. The interest on the loan would essentially wash away any benefit of getting the money in earlier (and that’s assuming the RRSP makes gains during this short time period – no guarantee at all).

  • Quentin DSouza February 11, 2008, 1:49 pm

    I am using a couple of calculators that help in finding a more exact number for Tax Calculation purposes. Although, I’m sure there are many – Ernst & Young Canada is great.

    http://www.ey.com/global/Content.nsf/Canada/Tax_-_Calculators_-_Overview

    See the RRSP Savings Calculator.

  • layman February 13, 2008, 8:30 pm

    im betting the farm and really not sure what to do with my chickens?

    -selling the house taking 100k profit
    -putting 50k in rrsp (maxing out)
    -but using HELOC to do so till completion on house sale april 1st

    good, bad? there’s also the possibility of a lower tax bracket in 2008 due to a career change.

  • George February 13, 2008, 11:01 pm

    Layman: If I understand you correctly, you’re borrowing $50k from your line of credit from the end of February until early April – say, six weeks or so. Assuming that you’re definitely going to get the profit from the house sale and that you’ll be able to pay off the loan in full after the sale goes through, it sounds like a fairly good plan – the interest costs on the HELOC shouldn’t be more than $500, but you’ll have a significant RRSP deduction to use.

    One thing to note: you don’t have to use the RRSP deduction in the same year that you make the contribution – you can “save” the deduction and use it in a future year. If your tax bracket will be lower in 2008, this might not be a good idea (you want to use the deduction, as much as possible, when you’re in a higher tax bracket to maximize the tax savings).

  • layman February 14, 2008, 3:16 pm

    By George you got it :)

    I can get 5.5% on the money for 90 days (3.74 after that) and my HELOC is 5.75% so I don’t think the actual cost will be anywhere near $500, but I do still need to confirm this account is registrable though. I also want to find out how much of it I can borrow from the Home Buyers Plan when I buy back in to Real Estate, I’m thinking a year or two from now, maybe longer.

  • clueless February 17, 2008, 3:21 pm

    Hi guys,

    Here’s my situation:

    • I make about $92,000 / annually and my wife take home is around $72,000/ annually.

    • Got our first RSP last September 2007 and contributed about $8,000 to date. Our last tax return indicated that we have $16k and $20k contribution room for our RSP.
    • Roughly 5k in savings (it’s really small, though I am supporting two of my sibling educational requirement)
    • Tendered to purchase a house for $420,000 with a closing date of June 30, 2008. (We are expecting our second child this year and we really need to move out of our one bedroom condo.

    Our financial planner (Investor’s Group) suggested that we take out the max RSP loan (@ prime +1.5% spread over 10 years) to be used as down payment and use the refund either to cover the closing cost or invest it in a 4% preferred savings account.

    Being fairly new to the country and having without a semblance of a family support, I am not confident that I am making the right financial choices. Thus, I would greatly appreciate any help/ you’d be able to provide.

  • George February 17, 2008, 4:13 pm

    Clueless,

    There are a lot of variables involved that make it difficult to give you specific advice – your age, assets, debts, and other obligations. Does your employer have a pension plan? If so, an RRSP might not be necessary. How much do you expect to pay for child care now that you have two children – I’ve got two kids, and my daycare expenses for 2008 will be nearly $20k! With potential large expenses coming up, going $36,000 into debt to fund an RRSP might not be the best strategy. Bear in mind that when you have a house, you’ll have significantly higher expenses than in a condo – you won’t have condo fees, but you’re responsible for all of your own maintenance and repairs, and property taxes will be significantly higher.

    As a rule, RRSP loans only make sense if they’ll be paid off within a year. Also, RRSP loans are regularly offered at prime, so prime+1.5% doesn’t sound like a great deal to me. It’s odd that they’re recommending an “RRSP Loan” that’s really going to be used to provide a down payment for a house purchase.

    I’d suggest getting a second opinion from a fee-only financial planner. Investor’s Group has a conflict of interest, since they make money from you if you take out an RRSP loan and invest with them – it’s in their best interest for you to invest as much as possible, whereas it might not be in YOUR best interest.

    Also, you’re not likely to get good advice from random people on the Internet – we don’t know all of the details of your situation, and you have no reason to trust any advice you receive here. Hire an advisor that you trust, pay them an hourly rate for their services (instead of a commission on sales), and have them review your situation and give you advice.

  • Clueless February 19, 2008, 11:30 pm

    Thanks for the advice George. Will certainly look for a fee-only financial planner.

  • David Anstey October 8, 2008, 11:22 pm

    I had a good chuckle reading your advice about using a fee-only planner. Most fee-only planners I’ve met base their fee on size of your portfolio and not on a per-hour basis. So an RRSP loan still increases your portfolio value – hence the perceived conflict of interest still is there.

    The biggest factor in determining whether an RRSP loan is beneficial is what you do with the tax refund. If you invest it, or use it to pay down the loan the strategy is generally sound (keep in mind that an RRSP loan is a leveraging strategy like any other and is dependant upon market performance). Where the strategy really holds up is when you use the tax refund to pay down really high rate credit card debt. Most financial institutions will give you a low interest rate RRSP loan because they will hold the investment against the debt. You will find that they will not be as generous providing you a low interest fixed rate loan to pay off your 22% credit card in most cases unless you secure it against an asset. Thus the extent to which the strategy is successful is really dependant upon the alternatives available.

    In my experience the approach is successful with young couples who have been undisciplined with their money and have accumulated some debt. You ultimately can reduce some of their anxiety, reduce the interest costs on their debt, and begin a forced savings plan all at once. BUT, and I’ll say this again BUT…. they have to understand that all they have done is reposition their debt…… they will dig a much bigger hole if they ring up the credit cards again.

  • AJ February 8, 2010, 5:12 am

    MDJ, I got a $6K bonus check for 2009 given to me in Jan-2010 (i.e., it will be part of 2010 income). However, the company did not deduct taxes from this check and so I will owe around $2500 on this amount (I’m in Ontario at the highest tax bracket).

    I have about $20K RRSP contribution room. Is there a smart move I can make with this bonus check and the combination of an RRSP loan that will put me ahead (and not have me owing a lot of tax in 2010)?

    Would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks…

    • FT FrugalTrader February 8, 2010, 9:40 am

      AJ, if it was me, I would simply deposit the whole check into the RRSP to get the full deduction as you’ll get the max benefit b/c of your tax bracket.

  • Ally P April 9, 2010, 11:19 pm

    I hope you can give me your take about my situtation below:
    My income this year is 34K and I already took out loan of 30K (as my advisor advised) to max out my contribution room in end of Feb. However, i just realized that my max contribution room is 26 K.( I have over-contributed 4000K, misinformed by my advisor)
    I talked to my advisor and he said if that’s the case, I should file the 30K RRSP contribution in 2010 tax year instead, since I’m very likely to make about 52K in 2010 tax year, that I’ll will be able to claim more with the same 30K.

    My question is, how’s the marginal tax rate/tax bracket determined?
    Obviously I can’t file this year, or I’ll be charged 1% on the overcontribution. If I wait and file the 30K contribution next year, will I be in the 52K income tax bracket (thus getting more tax savings) OR will I be in the 20K (50K less 30Kcontribution) tax bracket.
    I just knew this advisor a few months ago, he was telling me that I’ll get about 10K back with the 30K investment while I get the loan, that I can use that 10K to paydown my line of credit. But now, it doesn’t seem to be the case.
    I felt a rushed when getting the RRSP loan, approaching the March 1st deadline, now i found out that I have to wait, and i doubt i could even get 10k if i file next year.
    I really hope that i’m not making mistake here. IF i am, I am hoping someone can give me your opinion on this? thank you.

    • FT FrugalTrader April 10, 2010, 12:16 am

      Ally, personally I would not use that advisor anymore. Recommending someone making $34k per year to take out a $30k RRSP loan doesn’t make sense to me.

      To answer your question, if you were to claim your $30k contribution on $52k income, you would basically report a net earnings for that year of $22k. IMO, claim enough to drop you to the lowest tax bracket for your province, then move the remainder to be claimed another year. Use any tax refunds that you receive, and pay down that RRSP loan.

  • Ally P April 10, 2010, 1:22 am

    I just checked the marginal tax rate for year 2010 for Ontarion: (related to the figures I’ve mentioned)
    @22K marginal tax rate is 20.05% (first $36,848)
    @52K marginal tax rate is 31.15% (over $40,726 up to $64,882)

    IF I contribute $30K in 2010 tax year, the marginal tax rate will be 20.05% (30k*20%) as opposed to 31.15% (30K*31.15%). Correct?

    If so, would you recommend to claim about 11K of the contribution, enough to keep stay the 31.15% marginal tax rate? then. carry Forward the unuse contribution forward to later years?

    I did not get your point when you mentioned ” IMO, claim enough to drop you to the lowest tax bracket for your province, then move the remainder to be claimed another year. Use any tax refunds that you receive, and pay down that RRSP loan.” I thought dropping to the lowest bracket has no point since the whole RRSP thingy is to take advantage of the getting more tax back while income is high, and pay lower tax while income is low (during retirement).

    OR, should I be better off to contact my advisor, (yes, it doesn’t seem to make sense the more I think about it) to see if I can cancel this whole loan? — I think the loan contract is still new (one mth old), I might have a chance to cancel since the 1st payment hasn’t been drawn yet.
    Sigh… not feeling so smart about myself. But I really appreciate your comment. Thank you.

    • FT FrugalTrader April 10, 2010, 8:10 am

      Ally, yip exactly. Next year when your income is higher you can claim enough RRSP contribution to bring your taxable income down to the lowest tax bracket. That way, you get a tax refund of 31% of $11k. Since you’ve already contributed to your RRSP, the only way to close the loan would be to pay it off (afaik). Not all is lost though, just make sure to put any surplus cash (refunds etc) towards your rrsp loan (or higher interest rate debt). The absolute best thing to do in this case is to talk to an accountant before you file this year. S/he will know how to carry forward contribution amounts for future years.

  • Ed Rempel April 10, 2010, 11:51 pm

    Hi Ally,

    Your problem is unfortunate, but your solution is right on. I agree with FT that you should not work with that advisor any longer. He clearly did not have your best interest at heart. IF there was a reason for the loan, he should have explained it to you.

    To put some perspective on your situation, the benefits of RRSPs are that you can defer tax on income of investments in the RRSP and that you may be in a lower tax bracket when you withdraw than you are when you contribute.

    Therefore, RRSPs are worth contributing to if you expect to be in the same or lower tax bracket when you withdraw them (probably after you retire).

    With your income at $34K, you are in the lowest tax bracket at about 20%. When you retire, you might be in the same tax bracket or a higher one. If you will still be in the lowest bracket at that time, then it is worth it for you to contribute because you can benefit from deferring tax on your investment income. But if you will be in a higher tax bracket after you retire, then you are probably better off NOT investing in RRSPs.

    Many seniors are effectively in higher tax brackets because of all the clawbacks on government income programs, so the odds are that you will likely be in a higher tax bracket when you retire.

    In short, for people under age 65 earning under $11,000, RRSPs are not worth it at all because they are not paying tax. For people like you in the lowest tax bracket, it is probably still not worth it for you to contribute.

    Once your income is over $41,000, you are into the middle tax bracket at about 31%. Here it is quite likely that RRSPs will benefit you, since you have a reasonable chance of being in a lower tax bracket after your retire.

    This is why contributing so much while you are in a low tax bracket probably makes no sense. Whenever advice from an advisor makes no sense, you have to wonder if the advisor really had your best interests at heart.

    Your advisor was also wrong when he said you would get $10K back on a $30K contribution. That would only apply if your income was $71K or higher.

    So, what should you do?

    Option 1: Unfortunately, it will be difficult for you to just cancel. You would have to file a formal complaint and fight for a settlement. Your advisor could possibly issue a Letter of Indemnity to have the entire transaction reversed, but that would cost him quite a bit.It you be up to you to prove that the transaction was inappropriate and that you did not understand the recommendation.

    Option 2: Your advisor could issue a Letter of Indemnity to have the investment changed so that the investments are not RRSP. In that case, you cannot deduct the RRSP contribution, but you can deduct the interest on the loan every year. This may well work for you as a long term strategy, since you would be borrowing to invest and the investments should be able to make more than the investment loan over time. This would also probably cost your advisor nothing to do (although he may hesitate to do it because he may be unfamiliar with how to do it).

    Option 3: This is your strategy. Carry the entire deduction forward until you can claim it at a higher tax bracket. If your income is $52K in 2010, then you can claim $11K at the 31% tax bracket. If your income stays at that level, you can deduct the entire $30K over 3 years, in which you would get $10K in refunds over 3 years. Do you expect your income to stay comfortably above $41K for the next few years?

    Which is best for you? Probably either option 2 or 3, but which is best is more complex. It depends on your income in the next few years, your tax bracket after you retire, and your risk tolerance.

    Option 2 may well be best in your case, but borrowing to invest is considered a more aggressive strategy that may or may not be suitable for you. The advantage is that the the RRSP deduction is a deferral (you will repay it when you eventually withdraw the RRSP), while the interest deduction is deductible every year.

    Option 3 is the simplest and gets you the largest refund over the next 3 years, but may or may not be the biggest benefit for you long term.

    I hope that is helpful, Ally.

    Ed

  • Ally P April 11, 2010, 1:46 am

    I would like to thank both Ed and FT for taking the time and giving me detailed advice on my situation here. You’ve helped me a great deal in learning what options I have at this point.
    The bright side of this is the market is in the recovery mode right now, and I am hoping the potential return of the contribution/investement could “outperform” the interest % of the loan. My income will most likely to stay above 50K for at least a few years. I will go with Option 3.
    The only person I would blame for my situation here is myself.
    I’m sure everyone is out there for his/herself. I admit it was naive of me to get psyched with the deadline. I should have done more research like what i’m doing here before I commit to the loan.
    Afterall, he’s a loan expert, not a tax expert and he could make mistake too. I’ll take this as lesson learnt, and I hope I’m making the best out of this, of course, thanks for your advice. Like FT said, afterall, it’s not all loss. :)
    Honestly, I wouldn’t even have researched so much about RRSP if this problem hadn’t risen. I have learnt so much in the past couple nights, and I am relieved to find a solution that I’m comfortable with, and the knowledge that’ll be useful for a loooong time.
    Can’t thank you enough. You rock!
    May the force of prosperity be with you. :)

  • Penny February 6, 2011, 9:23 pm

    Hi everyone, I could really use some good advice…

    My income is approx. 75K am in my mid-30’s, and have been working in Canada for about 6 years. I’m single with no dependants but I’m now at a stage where I’m thinking of buying my first home, however, I have basically no savings. The first 3 years I lived here I had put away some savings and RRSPs but I went to college for a year whilst still working and had to pay my way through the course, so I used up all the savings and have not quite recovered since.

    A financial advisor that I know thinks that if I take out an RRSP loan for approx. 20K (I have about 25k room for contribution) and use that borrowed RRSP contribution as a down payment on a house then that would be a good investment of the loan. We’ve also determined that by borrowing that amount my tax return would be approx. 7K, the majority of which I could use to make an initial repayment of the RRSP loan.

    I am clueless when it comes to finances so any comments would be appreciated.

  • FT FrugalTrader February 7, 2011, 9:58 am

    @Penny, that sounds like an idea, but somethings to note. What is your savings rate going forward? The reason being is that with the home purchase, you’ll have a boatload of incremental expenses. To start, you’ll have your housing expenses (mortgage + insurance +maintenance+tax), then you’ll have a brand new RRSP loan, AND RRSP HBP repayments. Can you service all that with $75k/yr?

  • Penny February 20, 2011, 8:42 pm

    Dear FT,
    Thanks for putting things into perspective, I appreciate your advice.

  • RJ July 9, 2011, 3:20 am

    I have two questions.
    1) will the CRA allow me to take out a RRSP loan to max out my unused contributions against my income this year which is at the highest tax bracket, and then the following year if I’m not working, cash in those same RRSPs at the lowest tax bracket?
    2) what is the longest term and amortization period for a RRSP loan?
    Thanks in advance! RJ

  • MonsterCable July 19, 2012, 3:51 pm

    Hi,

    I too am in need of some good advice.

    My income is about $57k and am in my late 20’s. I purchased a business 2-3 years ago and it was like throwing money into the garbage – as soon as I took over everything went to the can. I ended up walking away from it with about $30k in credit card debt (at 11.9% interest).

    I’ve currently cut my expenses as much as I can and am paying $1500 towards the credit card debt.

    The problem is now I don’t have any savings and putting most of my disposable income into repaying the debt. At the rate I’m going if I continue with $1500/month then I should be debt free in about 2-3 years – but still, no savings and little RRSP.

    I talked about this with a Financial advisor and he recommended that by Nov of next year that I should have about $8000 in CC debt left – at that time, I should withdraw an RRSP loan (my current deduction limit for 2012 is $42k).

    Does this sound like a good idea?

    • FT FrugalTrader July 19, 2012, 10:38 pm

      This is from Ed Rempel:

      Hi MonsterCable,

      Doing smaller loans each year should work better for you in your situation.

      An RRSP loan of $42,000 would give you a refund of about $8,000, but much of that is at the 20% tax rate (assuming you are in Ontario). With your taxable income at $57K, the first $14K RRSP contribution you make will give you a refund of 31%, then the next $32K contribution will give you a refund of 20%.

      It is most effective for you to try to do a $14,000 tax refund each year, which would give you a refund of about $4,500/year. That way, all your contributions would provide 31% refunds.

      You can also defer your RRSP loan payments up to 6 months. You could make your loan payment only about $260/month by making it a 5-year loan.

      Here’s my thought. Take a $14,000 RRSP loan in Feb./13 and defer the payments for 6 months. That should give you a refund of $4,500 to apply to your credit card. The $260/month payments would only start in August.

      Then you can do another $14,000 RRSP loan in Feb./14. The refund should pay off the last of your credit card. You could then reduce the payment to a shorter period (like 2 years), since you will have more cash flow to invest after the card is paid off.

      (I picked 2 years because we found that doing a 2-year RRSP loan each year is the optimal RRSP strategy for many people to make the largest contribution with the least amount of cash.)

      Have you tried applying for a small credit line to try to speed up the process by trying to refinance at a lower rate?

  • MonsterCable July 19, 2012, 10:49 pm

    Thanks so much for replying back so fast FT.

    I’m living in NS – does that make a significant difference for your calculations?

    I tried applying for a credit line – but the bank said I was carrying too much debt (I also have student loans (6% interest) & a car loan (0% interest)) – I was going to try again for a credit line after Christmas, but was looking around for some advice first.

    Do you know (on average) how much the interest rate on an RRSP loan is?

    This is all very new to me and I could classify myself as a beginner in investing.

    Thanks again.

  • FT FrugalTrader July 20, 2012, 3:39 pm

    also from Ed:

    Hi MonsterCable,

    Yes, NS has somewhat different marginal tax rates. With an income of $57,000, the first $14K should give you a refund of 37% (about $5,200) and then the next $13K should give you a refund of 30% (about $3,900). After that, it is down to 24%.

    That gives you 2 options:

    1. Apply for a $27,000 RRSP loan to get a refund of about $9,100 in Feb./13.
    2. Apply for a $14,000 RRSP loan to get a refund of about $5,200 in Feb./13 and then another $14,000 RRSP loan in Feb./14 to get another $5,200.

    Option 2 actually gives you total refunds of $10,200 vs. $9,100 for option 1, but considering that you can pay all of the $9,100 onto your credit card right away, option 1 may be slightly better for you.

    You may not qualify for a $27,000 RRSP loan, anyway, but you could take whatever amount you can qualify for between $14,000 and $27,000.

    RRSP loan rates are usually quite good. They are usually something like prime +1%, or about 4%. Sometimes you can get them a bit lower, such as prime, if you restrict your investing to the bank that gives you the loan, but that is not usually advisable.

    It is best for you to think of the RRSP loans as starting up your investment portfolio and focus on investing effectively. That has much more impact than a slight difference in the RRSP loan rate.

    Ed

  • MonsterCable July 20, 2012, 3:43 pm

    Thanks so much for all the advice!

    One more question if you don’t mind – why is it not advisable to go to my bank to get the RRSP loan?

    Is that because I’m putting my eggs into one basket? or for another reason?

    Thanks again!

  • Ed Rempel July 20, 2012, 10:39 pm

    Hi MonsterCable,

    My point here is that you are new to investing and your main focus should be on choosing high quality investments. Either do some research and choose good investments or get good advice on investments. Don’t make the focus based on whoever is most convenient or offers a slightly lower loan rate.

    Ed

  • michael December 4, 2012, 12:02 am

    With my particular circumstances I too am in need of some solid advice.

    40 years old living in Quebec, $45K per year gross with $53 K of unused RSSP space. Calling me a late bloomer is an understatement!

    Currently have $4000 in CC debt that is being paid down at $500/month.

    I started my own small business this past year, but for various reasons the project was on hiatus until conditions conspired in the last few weeks to move forward.

    I am a renter and have never owned. Am looking at purchasing a piece of property in order to house the business and myself. With all my liquidity tied up on paying down that cc as well as a vehicule lease financing agreement of $175/month and renting there is very little left to save towards a down payment on said piece of property and the subsequent build.

    So, I am looking at possibly taking out a $25K RSSP loan in 2013 in order to then withdraw as a down payment for a first time home owners (build category). The income tax refund would be 100% applied to the loan, which would be deferred for 6 months so that I can finish paying off the cc debt and release that liquidity to pay the monthly payments in the loan.

    Then looking at a $15K loan in 2014, as personal revenu will have gone up to $53K and finally another $15K loan in 2015 as personal revenu is projected to increase to $60K.

    I am trying to do my own due diligence on this, as the advice I have been getting from advisors has been mostly along the lines of going for a $40K loan which doesn’t make any financial sense for me.

    There are a lot of moving parts here to be added on, but that is the basis of what I am contemplating.

    Thoughts?

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