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Big Bank Monthly Income Fund Comparison

A reader emailed me asking about the differences between the big bank monthly income funds as they all seem to have one.  At first glance, they are all fairly similar with mostly Canadian exposure invested in a combination of dividend paying equities and bonds.  However, digging a bit deeper, there are noticeable differences in terms of cost, distributions and performance.

To get an accurate picture, I surfed over to the morning star website to do some research on the various monthly income funds.  Here is a summary of what I found (as of June 30, 2009):

CIBC RBC BNS TD BMO
MER 1.41% 1.14% 1.39% 1.40% 1.49%
Morning Star Rating 4 5 3 4 4
Div / Share $0.88 $0.57 $0.50 $0.42 $0.72
Current Yield 7.10% 4.77% 5.56% 2.95% 9.08%
Equity/Bonds/Cash 60/26/12 42/50/5 45/38/13 60/31/9 42/54/3
Load none none none none none
Min Investment $500/$25 $500/$25 $500/$50 $100/$100 $500/$50
10 Year Return 7.50% 7.50% not avail. 7.50% 4.80%
Net Assets (millions) $5604 $6,235 $646 $3,614 $4,463
NAVPS $12.40 $11.95 $8.99 $14.25 $7.93
Foreign Exposure none none 6% US none none

Looking at the table, it seems that each fund has their pros/cons.  RBC seems to be the lowest cost with the highest morning star rating, but with a lower distribution relative to the rest.  I personally own CIBC Monthly Income which seems to be in the middle of the pack with an above average distribution.  If I were to pick an income fund today, it would probably be the BMO Monthly Income Fund.  They have been paying $0.72 dividend /share for years now which works out to be a fairly high yield at today’s price (NAVPS).

It’s worthy to note though that each of these funds have a significant bond allocation which should be accounted for in your total portfolio asset allocation.  As well, since bond distributions are considered interest income, it may be the most tax efficient route to hold these funds within an RRSP or TFSA.

Do you own any of the big bank income funds?

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  • Kent July 13, 2009, 8:35 am

    Great post! One income fund I’ve been fond of is the Mac Sentinel Income Fund. It’s MER is reasonable, around 1.8%, and provides significant downside protection, -9.6% was its worst year since inception. What do you think of it?

  • DavidV July 13, 2009, 10:17 am

    So are income funds basically index funds of dividend paying stocks?

    • FT FrugalTrader July 13, 2009, 10:36 am

      David, afaik, the income funds mentioned above are actively managed.

  • Tim July 13, 2009, 10:41 am

    FT – do you hold the CIBC fund in a TFSA currently? Curious if you use Questrade for your TFSA…

  • FT FrugalTrader July 13, 2009, 10:45 am

    Tim, my CIBC monthly income fund is held within my RRSP. Believe it or not, I haven’t had the chance to open a TFSA yet. But when I do, it will most likely be with Questrade.

  • ToT July 13, 2009, 10:48 am

    Hi,

    Thanks for that – I can’t find any of these funds on the morningstar website. What are their names or codes?

    The yields look too high – is part of that distribution return of capital or are they leveraged?

    Thanks!

  • Henry July 13, 2009, 10:54 am

    If costs are a concern, RBC Monthly Income Series D’ MER is only .84% and PH&N Balanced Series D’s MER is only .87%. RBC Monthly Income Series D is only available through RBC Direct Investing. PH&N Balanced Series D is available without transaction costs at RBC Direct Investing, Scotia iTrade, and BMO Investorline.

    Disclosure: I personally own CIBC Monthly Income. I have been very disappointed about its management. Downside risk was not minimized during the crash and the manager didn’t take the opportunity of lower prices to increase equity allocation. Preet recommends that tactical asset allocation funds are the way to go if you want flexible asset allocation.

  • FT FrugalTrader July 13, 2009, 10:56 am
  • Tim July 13, 2009, 10:59 am

    From that link the yield on the CIBC fund is 5.23% and the table above has it at 7.10%. What makes up the difference in yield?

  • Blogging Banks July 13, 2009, 11:12 am

    At 1.1% to 1.5% annual expense isn’t it better to just do the income portion on your own by properly allocating fixed income and equity investments?

    Also what is your take on individual cdn bank stocks? Are the divs safe?

  • FT FrugalTrader July 13, 2009, 11:24 am

    Tim, I took the 2008 distribution of $0.88 and divided by the current NAVPS. The assumption is that 2009 will have the same distribution as 2008. You’ll notice from the link that the fund has paid 0.72 over the past several years.

    Blogging Banks, my personal opinion is that Canadian bank dividends are safe for now. If you take a look at the div payout relative to earnings, they are a bit on the higher side historically, but nothing to be worried over (IMO).

  • cannon_fodder July 13, 2009, 12:22 pm

    I think what is most interesting is the allocation between equities/bonds/cash. It would be interesting to see how that allocation has changed over the past 3 years.

    CIBC and TD look the most aggressive with BMO and RBC most conservative (if you consider higher proportion of equities vs. bonds as being aggressive).

    It would seem that CIBC and TD can’t put much more money in equities whereas BMO and RBC could if that is their strategy.

  • Kirk S. July 13, 2009, 7:59 pm

    I have been looking into the RBC Monthly Income fund for my fixed investments in my RRSP, but currently have the Bond Index fund. All of those options seem to have a great yield!

  • cxd771 July 14, 2009, 1:20 am

    The yields seem higher because stock prices have been hammered recently as we all know. I’ve held BMO monthly income for a long time. They have never cut the dividend or missed a dividend payment. If there is a shortfall on cash for a dividend payment, they make up for it with return of capital. I’m a little worried about such a high yield as it is not sustainable in the long term.

  • Kevin Hall July 14, 2009, 1:29 am

    Hi, just wanted to comment on some of the info on RBC. I bank with them so I am familiar with their funds and policies. When I opened my TFSA the first thing I thought of was contributing to the Monthly Income Fund and reinvesting the dividends. Unfortunately, it is no longer open to Registered accounts and the TFSA is considered one. Secondly, the .84% MER for the series D funds is great if you have the $10000 minimum to open the fund. Hope this helps anybody making up their mind.

  • Journey July 14, 2009, 4:13 am

    I am still trying to work my way out of 110k in student loan debt. Maybe one day ..I will get to this place.

  • Tom @ Canadian Finance Blog July 14, 2009, 3:19 pm

    I’ve never really looked into income funds before, I find the MER a bit high to interest me.

  • Mark in Nepean July 14, 2009, 8:58 pm

    I think income funds or index funds, are the way to go for the TFSA, especially when the fund provides a dividend.

    That will be my plan for the 2010 TFSA.

  • Jordan July 15, 2009, 6:30 am

    @FrugalTrader

    I’m curious why do you use an actively managed income fund instead of using passive index funds / etfs with lower expenses? Have they outperformed?

    Also I’m curious what your opinion is of income funds with high distributions due to Return of Capital, it’s not really making money but to the average investor it looks like it’s got a great return.

    @Kent

    My parents own Mac Sentinel Income Series and I can tell you the worst period is not -9.6%, MorningStar shows the worst 1 year Rate of Return as -14.1% and that’s after the fund has recovered some. Holding over the last year as been a gigantic struggle for my folks.

    http://www.morningstar.ca/globalhome/quicktakes/Fund_Performance.asp?fundid=417

    • FT FrugalTrader July 15, 2009, 7:55 am

      Hey Jordan, CIBC monthly income fund was one of the first funds that I purchased with an advisor many moons ago and I’ve just left it in place. In the future, I will most likely transfer that account to my self directed account and use ETFs instead.

  • Jordan July 15, 2009, 7:57 am

    @FrugalTrader have you ever benchmarked your income fund’s performance against comparable indexes to see if you did better or worse?

  • MyLifeInBrampton July 16, 2009, 2:51 pm

    @Tim.

    The distribution for the CIBC Monthly Income is actually 0.06/monthly = $0.72/year which gives the 5.23% return, not 7.10%.
    The above table is incorrect unless the distribution has been changed on the last 2 weeks since June 30 distribution.

  • Neil Hampshire January 18, 2010, 7:56 am

    Hi, I just want to share that buying $90,000 of BMO Monthly Income average cost 8.07/share giving around $670/month means that I can keep leasing a new car just off my dividends. I can get car insurance, oil changes, maintenance, etc if I wanted to. Or I could have rent and utilities covered. But right now, I am reinvesting 70% of it roughly and living off the rest. At age 33, I am a bit behind with my portfolio, and having only 70% of it reinvesting, I am worried that I am not going to grow this fund fast enough. I am only making $35,000/year from work so there is not much room for adding money from my paycheque. I am wondering if any of you know any better strategies out there.

  • Sputs January 24, 2010, 8:50 pm

    I noticed that RBC Income fund is not available for TFSA or RRSP. Has anyone faced this issue with the other incomme funds?

  • Paul May 28, 2010, 6:22 pm

    I have been researching the BMO fund for a few weeks. Getting that distribution back every month really looks tempting. Especially when you consider your Drips repurchase more shares every month and the fund compounds on itself.

    A $5000.00 investment will give you about a $37.00 dividend every month that will purchase 4 1/2 more shares if you reinvest. (at todays rate). Seems like a pretty good deal.

    The one thing which now concerns me about this fund is something called “return of capital” ROC. In order to maintain the steady distribution the fund gives you back some of your own money each time.

    Is that something to worry about? Does it devalue the fund?

  • badcaleb June 15, 2010, 4:29 am

    I like coming back to this posting whenever I revisit whether or not to buy any of these funds (still haven’t). Just found this recently: http://blog.canadianbusiness.com/know-your-monthly-income-fund/

  • Jim August 18, 2010, 12:03 pm

    Hi,

    I know that when the distribution is received, the unit cost of the monthly income fund is reduced by that amount. So, there comes a point, if one holds on to the fund long enough, the unit cost of the fund will be $0.

    Does anyone know what happens when the unit cost of the income fund reaches to zero due to ROC? Do you still own the units or are you considered to have sold the units at that point in time?

    Thanks so much for helping me to understand this point.

    Jim

    • FT FrugalTrader August 18, 2010, 12:13 pm

      @ Jim, when your ACB reaches $0 from ROC, I believe any excess is treated as capital gain. However, this should be confirmed by an accountant.

  • Ed Rempel August 18, 2010, 2:42 pm

    Hi Jim & FT,

    Yes, you are right, FT. Once your cost base reaches zero, then every dollar of ROC you receive is considered to be a capital gain for tax purposes from then on and needs to be reported annually on your tax return.

    When you sell, 100% of the proceeds is then a capital gain as well, since your cost is zero. This is why ROC is not a tax-free cash amount – it is a tax deferral only.

    Ed

  • Rod October 4, 2010, 9:03 pm

    Hey Neil Hampshire, I think at your age, (provided you are debt free) have done well in holding such a behemoth of a portfolio. How long did it take you with 35,000 a year income? I am guessing from what you are saying being able to put little aside, and looking at what a typical guy would be able to put aside on that money, probably, you started in your early twenties and have been building up for a decade? I think the real trick is not a fast and easy way like some folks here would want it but perhaps your approach of putting aside 3 to 400 a month and grow it slowly but steadily. People have to realize that they need not put a huge amount aside as long as they are consistent and discipline to put in regardless is the hard part. Some of my colleagues think that they got to put aside 20,000 a year to get there but I am sure you know that it isn’t the case. It is simply slow and steady, and it need not be more than 10 dollars a day if you remember to put aside that much daily. Slow and steady wins the race.

  • Lindsay January 12, 2011, 11:55 pm

    I am thinking about buying the TD Monthly Income Fund $150 dollars a month on as I am currently making $12.00 an hour.

  • Paul N January 13, 2011, 8:59 pm

    Hi Lindsay,

    I have purchased this fund for my TFSA for two years now. For any fund choice you make you will have 50 other people telling you made a bad choice.

    This is a simple “safe” fund which has an MER of 1.4% which is not as bad as many funds but more expensive then ETF’s, which because of your monthy contribution would not be right for you. Each purchase has a brokerage fee.

    So the TD fund you picked is a good choice. It is a simple fund and it teaches you the value of dividends as you can see it grow a little amount every month. This gave me confidence to start othermore direct forms of divdend investing as well.

    There are no purchase fees and after 90 day’s you can unload them with no penalties from the bank. Again experienced investors may not agree but it’s a nice simple fund to grow with for somone not investment savvy. Plus you are making a choice, going ahead and getting a start to your retirement savings. Never a bad time to start.

  • Geoff I April 3, 2011, 3:54 pm

    The BMO monthly income fund is a perfect fund for a TFSA. I personally have it as the bulk of my TFSA with dividends automatically reinvested and the return of capital will not create a cost base problem in the future because it is in a TFSA.

  • Steven February 4, 2012, 11:45 am

    As a matter of fact, NONE of these funds are meant to be held in an RRSP. There are opportunity costs associated to a fund which structures itself to pay an income flow monthly. Holding these funds in plans where the income stream is not able to be withdrawn (RRSP) defeats the purpose of having monthly income.

    Also note that TD Monthly Income is NOT in the same category as the other 4 MI funds. It is a Canadian Equity Balanced fund whereas the others are Canadian NEUTRAL Balanced and as such is more aggressive (note the -23.4% return in 2008).

    One common misconception investors have is that high yield is always a good thing? Not necessarily. It is your NET return that matters where distributions are considered to be reinvested. It doesn’t matter if a fund yields 20% annually if its price declines by 30% over the same period. BMO Monthly Income is a poor choice out of the 5.

  • Paul N February 6, 2012, 4:59 pm

    Hi Steven

    I can’t really see a problem with any fund that returns an average of about 8 or 9% over 10 years regardless of its internal structure. The TD MI fund has done that. It’s a fairly low risk fund that seems to give the hoped for returns of riskier higher fee funds. I can’t see it being inappropriate for an rrsp or tfsa. There are so many highly touted, high fee dog funds out there that have had far less growth for the same time period. Of course im sure some “advisors” or investment companies continued to make profits while the individual investor may not have.. (they get their continuous commissions from the mer’s of course even when the fund falls flat or loses money).

    I would love to see your recommendations of better funds ?

  • Steven February 6, 2012, 5:05 pm

    Hi Paul,

    8 to 9% could be bad or good, depending on the risk you’re taking??? The TSX has an annualized return of over 10% per year for the past 51 years according to Andex Charts. In that case, if your actively managed fund Canadian equity returns 9% annually, is it a good investment? Absolutely not. You would be better off with an ETF that tracks the TSX!

    Conversely, if you are in a money market fund that returns 8 to 9%, then it would be a spectacular investment wouldn’t it?

    Never look purely at returns, but at RELATIVE returns.

    TD MI is a great fund, and yes it has done well. But no it is NOT a low risk fund. Read the prospectus regarding this. It is 60% equities and 40% fixed income that lost more than 20% in the worst of times. That is a bigger lost than most investors can stomach. It is what is considered a MEDIUM-HIGH risk fund.

  • Steven February 6, 2012, 5:14 pm

    Hi Paul,

    I apologize for not seeing your request for recommendations. Let’s use a more extreme example to illustrate:

    Pull up a fund called Front Street Special Opportunities Cdn Ser A on Morningstar: http://quote.morningstar.ca/quicktakes/Fund/f_ca.aspx?t=F000005I7J&region=CAN&culture=en-CA

    A whopping 10% MER. However, over the past 5 years it has outperformed its underlying index by 6.74% and outperformed the average competing fund by 5.55%. Note that this is NET of the 10% MER charged by the fund.

    So if you were to invest in an ETF that tracked the TSX resources sector for the past 5 years, you would’ve made at least 6.74% less (not including trading fees and MER on the ETF). You would’ve made at least 5.55 less if you went and looked for a low MER mutual fund in the same category.

    So are MERs the most important factor to consider? Are ETFs the absolute best solution?

    Once again, monthly income funds, whatever firm they are from, are structured to do just that, provide monthly income. Think about what is sacrificed in the process of generating this monthly income and what purpose this monthly income could possibly serve if it were inside an RRSP.

    Every product exists and continues to exist for a reason. ETFs, mutual funds, stocks, bonds, hedge funds are neither intrinsically good or bad. It’s about picking the quality products that do suit you risk tolerance and timeframe.

  • Paul N February 6, 2012, 5:52 pm

    Hi Steven,

    Good comments, I have read before that the TD MI fund is considered a “closet” index fund. An ETF is a lower cost way to invest, I would imagine ishares XIU would be the fund that would be comparable, or your own mix of XIU and XSB for the bond component would be similar. But how does a smaller investor purchase $100.00 worth of ETF units economicaly every paycheck? A bit difficult with an ETF. Especialy if you have to buy two? Your trading fees would really be a killer.

    I can’t really agree that that fund is a Medium/high risk fund. At the peak of the financial crisis some funds lost 50-60% of their unit value. The TD fund somewhere around the 30% range, It’s back to the 2008 level now. Plus the dividend kept buying you new units all through it. It’s maybe not THE best investment but for a combination of simple reasons

    I still feel it’s a pretty simple choice especially for the lazy, or type of investor who could get roped into a Front load, or DSC fund, or some ridiculous predatory fund like for example prime america’s model. I just hate seeing people get “fee’d” to death and not make a decent return, simply just because they don’t have the time in a busy world to learn the difference between a good and bad investment.

  • Steven February 6, 2012, 6:03 pm

    Hi Paul,

    If an investor is looking to make small or periodic investments…I definitely agree an MF is the most cost efficient way to go.

    Traditionally in the investment industry…a medium risk (balanced) portfolio usually consists of 50% fixed income/cash and 50% equities.

    A higher equity portion than that is usually considered to be riskier than a medium risk portfolio. TSX declined 33% in 2008. Anyone losing more than that was probably in a full equity and therefore high risk portfolio.

    Most big banks nowadays also offer most mutual funds in the industry at front end 0%. I know that for sure this is the case at RBC branch networks via their Investment & Retirement Planners. The industry is phasing out of DSCs as investors become more educated. FE 0% is a fair option in my opinion for investors who are simply too busy with their lives to educate themselves.

  • Paul N February 7, 2012, 1:15 pm

    Hi Stephen,

    I appreciate you taking the time to fully explain your thoughts on this. I also saw the other post you had even though it seems to have not posted here as well yet.
    I think we are looking at this from two completely different perspectives. Myself from the smaller investor group just looking to create a fairly simple not too risky retirement plan. I think that can be done with a monthly income fund. I personally also have a company DC plan with the choice of about 30 MF’s which has not done as well as my MI fund. The MER’s are certainly higher as well.

    In your last post you use a really sector specific (resources) specialty fund as your example with a 10 % MER. I can’t see a small investor investing more then a minor percentage of their money in that regardles of the return. I could see that type of fund turning around and shedding all that gain just as easily. Also if it turns around and has 2-3 negative years that huge MER will eat away your gains very quickly. You would have to time a fund like that and get out.

    You kind lost me with your “invest within your risk tolerance and timeframe” comment as well. I think in most cases that’s not a genuine thought from an advisor / “fund salesperson”, or when you fill out the ridiculous 10 question form at a bank. That line seems to serve many purposes. Especially if its from one of those advisors that never attempts to contact their clients. There should be meetings 3-4 times a year and discussions about whats in the clients best interests first. (which lets face it is making as much money for their retirement as possible while keeping risk in check)

  • Steven February 7, 2012, 1:33 pm

    Hi Paul,

    TD is a good simple stand-alone investment solution, but:
    1. It is at least a medium risk investment itself due to its equity/fixed income ratio. I guess this is debateable depending on your definition of “risk”. Again, because it is 60 equities – 40 fixed income/cash, I feel that it is medium risk.

    2. Its main purpose to provide consistent monthly income is defeated when held in an RSP. TD MI is what is considered to be a stand-alone solution. A stand-alone solution that does NOT provide monthly income is much more suitable for an RSP.

    Yes, the example with Front Street Special Opps was an extremely extreme one. I merely used it to illustrate that funds should not be avoided merely because of high MERs. It is the net return after MERs that matters, not MERs themselves. Everything in life has a cost. We must evaluate things based on their value as well, not only their cost.

    I am an investment advisor myself. I do not call clients who hold mutual fund portfolios 3-4 times a year, not because I don’t want to, but because it’s not necessary. Rebalancing once or twice a year is more than sufficient except in extreme circumstances. Portfolios with individual stocks and bonds is a different story that requires more diligence in on-going monitoring.

    As an advisor I take timeframe and risk tolerance very seriously. This is not due to regulatory requirements but because I want my clients to do well. When clients do well, they refer – that is what my business is built on – referrals. Imagine a client who claims to be able to only tolerate low risk (10% loss during a down market), and I got them into a fund that tanks 25% in the next financial crisis. If the client has the intestinal fortitude to wait, they would probably make their money back in the year or two after that. But because I inaccurate gauged his/her risk tolerance, they have now realized a loss that will be much more difficult to recoup. Helping clients get investments with risks they can tolerate will ensure that they stay invested even during market downturns, and we know that markets always trend upwards.

  • Ken April 12, 2013, 7:40 pm

    I have the BMO Monthly Income Fund in my TFSA and RSP. I have just been informed that they are reducing the income from 0.06 per unit to 0.024 per unit. Are the other big banks going the same way, or should I be looking elsewhere for my monthly income?

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