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		<title>By: Blogging Banks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogging Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how this screen performed in 2008 and 2009 amidst the worst bear market in decades?</description>
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		<title>By: cfe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the P/E pretty high for Graham?  Unless i am mistaken i thought Graham&#039;s P/E threshold was around 8.  Still there are plenty of stocks now trading in or around 8.  Toyota, Honda, some of the big Can banks are a little more around 9.  Anyways, good post and if you can make it through it The Intelligent Investor is a great book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the P/E pretty high for Graham?  Unless i am mistaken i thought Graham&#8217;s P/E threshold was around 8.  Still there are plenty of stocks now trading in or around 8.  Toyota, Honda, some of the big Can banks are a little more around 9.  Anyways, good post and if you can make it through it The Intelligent Investor is a great book.</p>
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		<title>By: stock investing</title>
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		<dc:creator>stock investing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Miller has just been killed lately, a lot of those big guys still holding are losing money.</description>
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		<title>By: Brad Castro</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.

True, Graham was Warren Buffett&#039;s teacher and mentor. But Buffett&#039;s value investing style developed into something markedly different than Graham&#039;s. His biggest evolution has been his willingness to pay a fair price for a truly superior company. I think it was Buffett who said something to the effect that it&#039;s far better to buy a wonderful company at a fair price than a fair company at a wonderful price.

To me, value investing is the smartest, safest, and, in the end, most lucrative approach to investing in the stock market. But it&#039;s also important to realize that there will never be a single definition of value investing. The great value investors--Graham, Buffett, John Neff, Wilber Ross, and even Bill Miller--all have/had their own unique approach to value investing.

Likewise, it&#039;s also up to individual value investors to discover their own approach to the subject. The idea is to acquire valuable assets for less than their true value. How you go about that has to mesh with your own analytical abilities and psychological make up. I actually use certain option trading techniques as a way to be a better value investor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.</p>
<p>True, Graham was Warren Buffett&#8217;s teacher and mentor. But Buffett&#8217;s value investing style developed into something markedly different than Graham&#8217;s. His biggest evolution has been his willingness to pay a fair price for a truly superior company. I think it was Buffett who said something to the effect that it&#8217;s far better to buy a wonderful company at a fair price than a fair company at a wonderful price.</p>
<p>To me, value investing is the smartest, safest, and, in the end, most lucrative approach to investing in the stock market. But it&#8217;s also important to realize that there will never be a single definition of value investing. The great value investors&#8211;Graham, Buffett, John Neff, Wilber Ross, and even Bill Miller&#8211;all have/had their own unique approach to value investing.</p>
<p>Likewise, it&#8217;s also up to individual value investors to discover their own approach to the subject. The idea is to acquire valuable assets for less than their true value. How you go about that has to mesh with your own analytical abilities and psychological make up. I actually use certain option trading techniques as a way to be a better value investor.</p>
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		<title>By: MyInvestorsPlace</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyInvestorsPlace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Value Investing is referred as successful means of investment. Decision making capability will enable us to taste the success as Benjamin did.. Provided illustration helps a lot in investment initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Value Investing is referred as successful means of investment. Decision making capability will enable us to taste the success as Benjamin did.. Provided illustration helps a lot in investment initiative.</p>
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		<title>By: Gates VP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gates VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ed&lt;/b&gt;:  &lt;i&gt;Could it be that all the tons if info available to investors today is a huge disadvantage?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m reading a book called Super-Crunchers right now. The book talks extensively about people who crunch lots of numbers and follow the data.  But he also talks about the value of &quot;intuition&quot; in knowing what numbers to pull from within the sea of data.

As a guy who works at a company pushing 2 terabytes of data / week, I can tell you that more data is useless if you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re looking for.  It&#039;s worse when you&#039;re working with a growing system b/c you have to evaluate things like data quality and data timeliness.  

I wouldn&#039;t say that having tons of data is really a disadvantage. If anything the sheer accessibility opens the doors for people who were previously uncompetitive b/c of &quot;hard-to-find&quot; data.

At the end of the day, it still comes down to knowing how to interpret data and pick out facts from Red Herrings. Whether across 2 pages or 20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ed</b>:  <i>Could it be that all the tons if info available to investors today is a huge disadvantage?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m reading a book called Super-Crunchers right now. The book talks extensively about people who crunch lots of numbers and follow the data.  But he also talks about the value of &#8220;intuition&#8221; in knowing what numbers to pull from within the sea of data.</p>
<p>As a guy who works at a company pushing 2 terabytes of data / week, I can tell you that more data is useless if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re looking for.  It&#8217;s worse when you&#8217;re working with a growing system b/c you have to evaluate things like data quality and data timeliness.  </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that having tons of data is really a disadvantage. If anything the sheer accessibility opens the doors for people who were previously uncompetitive b/c of &#8220;hard-to-find&#8221; data.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, it still comes down to knowing how to interpret data and pick out facts from Red Herrings. Whether across 2 pages or 20.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Rempel</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI FT,

Great article. Most of the best investors of all time use Graham&#039;s style, and yet there has been no major increase in investors using his style. Check out Warren Buffett&#039;s famous and amazing article about the &quot;Super-investors of Graham-and-Doddsville&quot;: http://www.tilsonfunds.com/superinvestors.html in which he chats about a few guys he bumped into that all had returns far higher than their indexes. Since that article, the few of those investors still active have all continued to beat their indexes by wide margins over long periods.

It&#039;s amazing that in the last 80 years, there are essentially no investors with Graham&#039;s wisdom. Could it be that all the tons if info available to investors today is a huge disadvantage?

I read Graham&#039;s first book &quot;Security Analysis&quot; (okay, I listened to the book on CD) and was shocked to find that he wrote it in 1934 - just after an 83% market crash. That is when he was recommending stocks for the long run!




Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI FT,</p>
<p>Great article. Most of the best investors of all time use Graham&#8217;s style, and yet there has been no major increase in investors using his style. Check out Warren Buffett&#8217;s famous and amazing article about the &#8220;Super-investors of Graham-and-Doddsville&#8221;: <a href="http://www.tilsonfunds.com/superinvestors.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tilsonfunds.com/superinvestors.html</a> in which he chats about a few guys he bumped into that all had returns far higher than their indexes. Since that article, the few of those investors still active have all continued to beat their indexes by wide margins over long periods.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing that in the last 80 years, there are essentially no investors with Graham&#8217;s wisdom. Could it be that all the tons if info available to investors today is a huge disadvantage?</p>
<p>I read Graham&#8217;s first book &#8220;Security Analysis&#8221; (okay, I listened to the book on CD) and was shocked to find that he wrote it in 1934 &#8211; just after an 83% market crash. That is when he was recommending stocks for the long run!</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big T, this would be most likely due to fluctuating stock prices which can push the P/E ratio over the prescribed limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big T, this would be most likely due to fluctuating stock prices which can push the P/E ratio over the prescribed limit.</p>
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		<title>By: Big T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does this provide different companies every day that this is run? 
I ran it yesterday and came up with different results today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does this provide different companies every day that this is run?<br />
I ran it yesterday and came up with different results today.</p>
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		<title>By: Market Flavor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Market Flavor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great stock screen tool that has helped me out a ton. Now that we are in this bear market, there are some great values out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great stock screen tool that has helped me out a ton. Now that we are in this bear market, there are some great values out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Donny Gamble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donny Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin Graham is the greatest investor that ever lived.  He taught Warren Buffett most of what he knows and defied the laws of ethics when he creating a system that could be duplicated with precise precision to create millions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin Graham is the greatest investor that ever lived.  He taught Warren Buffett most of what he knows and defied the laws of ethics when he creating a system that could be duplicated with precise precision to create millions</p>
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		<title>By: JN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
Copy the link from IE into firefox ;-)

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/controls/finderpro.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Copy the link from IE into firefox ;-)</p>
<p><a href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/controls/finderpro.asp" rel="nofollow">http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/controls/finderpro.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post! Great stock screener too you recommended. A nice succinct refresher of value investing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post! Great stock screener too you recommended. A nice succinct refresher of value investing.</p>
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		<title>By: MultifolDream$</title>
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		<dc:creator>MultifolDream$</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good post with how to start! 
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post with how to start!<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Sam L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, I really enjoyed going through the method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I really enjoyed going through the method.</p>
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		<title>By: The Financial Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Financial Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx for this post FT!
I&#039;ll definitely try the stock screener and see how it goes. 
Any stats on how this method does so far in 2008?
Still showing impressive results in 2000,01 and 02!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx for this post FT!<br />
I&#8217;ll definitely try the stock screener and see how it goes.<br />
Any stats on how this method does so far in 2008?<br />
Still showing impressive results in 2000,01 and 02!</p>
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		<title>By: Dividend Growth Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividend Growth Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT,

Thanks for posting these picks. Two nice value investing sites are www.thediv-net.com and www.fatpitchfinancials.com

My only concerns for the screen above is that the minimum market cap has to be 400million, which is a lot.

Value Investing is not confined to only buying undervalued stocks, it also involves arbitrage, special situations, control situations etc.

This is another &quot;classic&quot; Graham screen, where you find stocks which sell for less than the amount of their current assets minus total liabilities. In other words if you were to purchase these businesses at the market price you are essentially getting a bargain. If you liquidate the business you are almost 100% guaranteed to make a profit.
http://www.grahaminvestor.com/screens/grahams_result</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT,</p>
<p>Thanks for posting these picks. Two nice value investing sites are <a href="http://www.thediv-net.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thediv-net.com</a> and <a href="http://www.fatpitchfinancials.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fatpitchfinancials.com</a></p>
<p>My only concerns for the screen above is that the minimum market cap has to be 400million, which is a lot.</p>
<p>Value Investing is not confined to only buying undervalued stocks, it also involves arbitrage, special situations, control situations etc.</p>
<p>This is another &#8220;classic&#8221; Graham screen, where you find stocks which sell for less than the amount of their current assets minus total liabilities. In other words if you were to purchase these businesses at the market price you are essentially getting a bargain. If you liquidate the business you are almost 100% guaranteed to make a profit.<br />
<a href="http://www.grahaminvestor.com/screens/grahams_result" rel="nofollow">http://www.grahaminvestor.com/screens/grahams_result</a></p>
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		<title>By: David V</title>
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		<dc:creator>David V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My concern with these picks (not specifically) is that you&#039;re buying in the US.  If you think that the CND dollar has been beaten down by resource sales, and you think that the price of oil and natural gas is likely to increase by 20% in the next year, that likely means the CND dollar will increase and may be close to parity. 

Also:  For those trying to view the website with Firefox, you don&#039;t get the option for Deluxe Screener.  So you really do need IE.  You&#039;d think that MSN is owned by Microsoft!  :-)

This will obviously have a huge impact on the actual results of these stocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My concern with these picks (not specifically) is that you&#8217;re buying in the US.  If you think that the CND dollar has been beaten down by resource sales, and you think that the price of oil and natural gas is likely to increase by 20% in the next year, that likely means the CND dollar will increase and may be close to parity. </p>
<p>Also:  For those trying to view the website with Firefox, you don&#8217;t get the option for Deluxe Screener.  So you really do need IE.  You&#8217;d think that MSN is owned by Microsoft!  :-)</p>
<p>This will obviously have a huge impact on the actual results of these stocks.</p>
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