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	<title>Comments on: Using Flow Through Shares to Maximize Your Charitable Donations</title>
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		<title>By: Krista  Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krista  Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just be careful with this - flow through shares only provide advantages according to your tax bracket. Therefore if you are in the lower tax bracket you won&#039;t get nearly the same benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just be careful with this &#8211; flow through shares only provide advantages according to your tax bracket. Therefore if you are in the lower tax bracket you won&#8217;t get nearly the same benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Carey Vandenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/using-flow-through-shares-to-maximize-your-charitable-donations.htm/comment-page-1#comment-67218</link>
		<dc:creator>Carey Vandenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very much of what you say is true.  Clarifications though.  

Flow through shares are in effect and simply put, from resource / mining companies with more tax write offs than they can use and thus these tax deductions and credits are &quot;flowed through&quot; to investors.  

Flow through shares are nothing new.  They have been used since the 50&#039;s and are in fact the oldest tax assisted investment program in Canada.  

Re: the accredited investor part.... many people outside of that &quot;accredited investor&quot; definition use them very effectively and properly.  If, on a long term basis (through market ups and downs), someone who gifts generously and regularly as a life long philosophy can save themself thousands upon thousands in tax in a life time and I get paid for my work it&#039;s a win win or a &quot;Mutual Gain&quot;.  

What my firms financial planner&#039;s make on such a transaction is fully disclosed to the client along with the risks.  This is mandatory from a regulatory standpoint.  It&#039;s not much different than an accountant or lawyer who devises some slick tax saving tax strategy for a client of theirs and bills them for that work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very much of what you say is true.  Clarifications though.  </p>
<p>Flow through shares are in effect and simply put, from resource / mining companies with more tax write offs than they can use and thus these tax deductions and credits are &#8220;flowed through&#8221; to investors.  </p>
<p>Flow through shares are nothing new.  They have been used since the 50&#8217;s and are in fact the oldest tax assisted investment program in Canada.  </p>
<p>Re: the accredited investor part&#8230;. many people outside of that &#8220;accredited investor&#8221; definition use them very effectively and properly.  If, on a long term basis (through market ups and downs), someone who gifts generously and regularly as a life long philosophy can save themself thousands upon thousands in tax in a life time and I get paid for my work it&#8217;s a win win or a &#8220;Mutual Gain&#8221;.  </p>
<p>What my firms financial planner&#8217;s make on such a transaction is fully disclosed to the client along with the risks.  This is mandatory from a regulatory standpoint.  It&#8217;s not much different than an accountant or lawyer who devises some slick tax saving tax strategy for a client of theirs and bills them for that work.</p>
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		<title>By: Zahid Jafry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zahid Jafry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt as to the merits of Flow-Through Shares or Super Flow-Through Shares. Do keep in mind the Canadian government does not have this arrangement out of the goodness of their hearts. Their reasoning, as you might guess, is to aid in getting financing for these companies that would be hard-pressed to raise money any other way. What is another a Canadian is given a full write-off? Donating to charity. That should say something. They are incredibly high risk and should be treated as such. 

These securities should be reserved for accredited investors (individual or organizations), which, in Canada, is defined as a net worth of one million dollars not including the value of your principal residence or making at least $200,000 each year for the last two years ($300,000 if with a spouse). 

These are great for financial advisors who receive a commission of 4.00% to 4.25% of the total invested in these vehicles. Incredibly lucrative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt as to the merits of Flow-Through Shares or Super Flow-Through Shares. Do keep in mind the Canadian government does not have this arrangement out of the goodness of their hearts. Their reasoning, as you might guess, is to aid in getting financing for these companies that would be hard-pressed to raise money any other way. What is another a Canadian is given a full write-off? Donating to charity. That should say something. They are incredibly high risk and should be treated as such. </p>
<p>These securities should be reserved for accredited investors (individual or organizations), which, in Canada, is defined as a net worth of one million dollars not including the value of your principal residence or making at least $200,000 each year for the last two years ($300,000 if with a spouse). </p>
<p>These are great for financial advisors who receive a commission of 4.00% to 4.25% of the total invested in these vehicles. Incredibly lucrative.</p>
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		<title>By: Carey Vandenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carey Vandenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tax deductions and credits are used against employment income.  If you don&#039;t &quot;donate&quot; the investment after they roll into the mutual fund you could in fact sell the mutual fund units, which would trigger a capital gain (as your ACB... Adjusted Cost Base, would be $0).  Your capital gains would be offset by your capital loss carryforwards.

Another comment re: the wide variability in the value of the investment.  If the investment has fallen during the holding period it of course would be most advantageous to put off the charitable giving of the investment until a later time, when it has recovered it&#039;s losses.  In the interim, you may have to revert to the traditional giving of cash, particularly if you have a certain amount you like to or are committed to giving on an annual basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tax deductions and credits are used against employment income.  If you don&#8217;t &#8220;donate&#8221; the investment after they roll into the mutual fund you could in fact sell the mutual fund units, which would trigger a capital gain (as your ACB&#8230; Adjusted Cost Base, would be $0).  Your capital gains would be offset by your capital loss carryforwards.</p>
<p>Another comment re: the wide variability in the value of the investment.  If the investment has fallen during the holding period it of course would be most advantageous to put off the charitable giving of the investment until a later time, when it has recovered it&#8217;s losses.  In the interim, you may have to revert to the traditional giving of cash, particularly if you have a certain amount you like to or are committed to giving on an annual basis.</p>
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		<title>By: nancy (aka money coach)</title>
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		<dc:creator>nancy (aka money coach)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this.  I may use it myself, and have passed on the link to our parish treasurer (she may be aware of it already)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this.  I may use it myself, and have passed on the link to our parish treasurer (she may be aware of it already)</p>
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		<title>By: danwk</title>
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		<dc:creator>danwk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. 

I do have one question: Is the initial tax credit (available at the time of investment) applicable against employment income? or only capital gains?

I&#039;m asking because in situations where significant capital losses have accumulated (ie. after 2008), this would be a great strategy to use up one&#039;s capital loss carry forward... or am I missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. </p>
<p>I do have one question: Is the initial tax credit (available at the time of investment) applicable against employment income? or only capital gains?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m asking because in situations where significant capital losses have accumulated (ie. after 2008), this would be a great strategy to use up one&#8217;s capital loss carry forward&#8230; or am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Carey Vandenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carey Vandenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flow through shares are usually available throughout the year, albeit by different promoters.  Sorry, but I won&#039;t be announcing when particular ones become available in a public space due to regulatory issues / restraints.  I only do that for my clients etc. who have expressed interest to me directly.  I can however tell you this.  There is a March 31st deadline approaching where the Federal Government said the additional tax credits for &quot;Super&quot; Flow Through shares are set to come to an end (for the past few years they have extended this for another year so anything can happen).  This amounts to approx. 15% of the total tax savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flow through shares are usually available throughout the year, albeit by different promoters.  Sorry, but I won&#8217;t be announcing when particular ones become available in a public space due to regulatory issues / restraints.  I only do that for my clients etc. who have expressed interest to me directly.  I can however tell you this.  There is a March 31st deadline approaching where the Federal Government said the additional tax credits for &#8220;Super&#8221; Flow Through shares are set to come to an end (for the past few years they have extended this for another year so anything can happen).  This amounts to approx. 15% of the total tax savings.</p>
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		<title>By: cannon_fodder</title>
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		<dc:creator>cannon_fodder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT,

Thanks.  Well, that is very reasonable.  I had visions of 7 years or so.  I would imagine that this year might be a great time for SFLS to actually appreciate after purchasing them later this year.

Perhaps Carey will follow up when they become available to give us more info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT,</p>
<p>Thanks.  Well, that is very reasonable.  I had visions of 7 years or so.  I would imagine that this year might be a great time for SFLS to actually appreciate after purchasing them later this year.</p>
<p>Perhaps Carey will follow up when they become available to give us more info.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannon, i&#039;ve asked Carey the same question.  The answer is that the timeline is dependent on the flow through share and is indicated in it&#039;s prospectus.  Some are as early as 12 months, but typically it&#039;s around 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannon, i&#8217;ve asked Carey the same question.  The answer is that the timeline is dependent on the flow through share and is indicated in it&#8217;s prospectus.  Some are as early as 12 months, but typically it&#8217;s around 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: cannon_fodder</title>
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		<dc:creator>cannon_fodder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be helpful to know what are the timelines for the SFLS to convert into mutual funds.  This would give one a better appreciation of how long the charity (and you) will have to wait to bestow the gift.

Also, are there any analysts which measure the various offerings to give one an idea which ones are most likely to succeed with perhaps the least amount of risk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be helpful to know what are the timelines for the SFLS to convert into mutual funds.  This would give one a better appreciation of how long the charity (and you) will have to wait to bestow the gift.</p>
<p>Also, are there any analysts which measure the various offerings to give one an idea which ones are most likely to succeed with perhaps the least amount of risk?</p>
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