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		<title>By: Madge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to AreWeDoneYet, that is a beautiful house plan you are considering, congrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to AreWeDoneYet, that is a beautiful house plan you are considering, congrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Madge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mike, don&#039;t mess with electrical code, buy the code book, it&#039;s worth it, the most plugs or switches on 1 circuit is 8, as long as they aren&#039;t for a fridge or other dedicated appliances, split plugs are a different thing altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mike, don&#8217;t mess with electrical code, buy the code book, it&#8217;s worth it, the most plugs or switches on 1 circuit is 8, as long as they aren&#8217;t for a fridge or other dedicated appliances, split plugs are a different thing altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: AreWeDoneYet</title>
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		<dc:creator>AreWeDoneYet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I am still pricing out foundation. I will definitely be going with slab and not basement. However, I still want to do more number crunching and also visit open houses in my prospective neighbourhood to get a feel of whether the lack of a basement is a dealbreaker when it comes to resale. If I were to put in a bonus that would just be a bonus (as the 2 story house has ample room for my 4 member family) and will therefore be used as a man cave.

Unfortunately, the exact cost of the foundation will only be known after I purchase a lot and the soil/topography are taken into consideration. However, I will definitely know before pouring in the concrete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I am still pricing out foundation. I will definitely be going with slab and not basement. However, I still want to do more number crunching and also visit open houses in my prospective neighbourhood to get a feel of whether the lack of a basement is a dealbreaker when it comes to resale. If I were to put in a bonus that would just be a bonus (as the 2 story house has ample room for my 4 member family) and will therefore be used as a man cave.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the exact cost of the foundation will only be known after I purchase a lot and the soil/topography are taken into consideration. However, I will definitely know before pouring in the concrete.</p>
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		<title>By: AreWeDoneYet</title>
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		<dc:creator>AreWeDoneYet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am picking up this 2352Sqf house + 420Sqf attached garage:
http://www.cameronmanors.com/_mndata/came/uploaded_files/garibaldi_doc.pdf
This comes in at a maximum price of $80,000k (delivery inc). The package includes doors, windows, siding, roofing. However, it does not include insulation, drywall, foundation, cabinets, hardwood/carpet. Below are my estimated costs:
House shell:    $80,000
Assembly:      $5,000
Insulation   :    $10,000
Ikea Kitchen:   $10,000
Hardwood Fl:   $15,000
Dry Wall:        $20,000
Plumbing:       $10,000
Electrical:       $10,000
Permits:         $10,000
Bathrooms:      $8,000
Lights:             $2,000
Painting:          $3,500
TOTAL:         $183,500

PerSqf:   $66/sqf

*The cost includes labour as well. Also, I have an idea of the construction process and will therefore be more confident supervising trades and labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am picking up this 2352Sqf house + 420Sqf attached garage:<br />
<a href="http://www.cameronmanors.com/_mndata/came/uploaded_files/garibaldi_doc.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cameronmanors.com/_mndata/came/uploaded_files/garibaldi_doc.pdf</a><br />
This comes in at a maximum price of $80,000k (delivery inc). The package includes doors, windows, siding, roofing. However, it does not include insulation, drywall, foundation, cabinets, hardwood/carpet. Below are my estimated costs:<br />
House shell:    $80,000<br />
Assembly:      $5,000<br />
Insulation   :    $10,000<br />
Ikea Kitchen:   $10,000<br />
Hardwood Fl:   $15,000<br />
Dry Wall:        $20,000<br />
Plumbing:       $10,000<br />
Electrical:       $10,000<br />
Permits:         $10,000<br />
Bathrooms:      $8,000<br />
Lights:             $2,000<br />
Painting:          $3,500<br />
TOTAL:         $183,500</p>
<p>PerSqf:   $66/sqf</p>
<p>*The cost includes labour as well. Also, I have an idea of the construction process and will therefore be more confident supervising trades and labour.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After all fees, how much per sq ft will your modular house cost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all fees, how much per sq ft will your modular house cost?</p>
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		<title>By: AreWeDoneYet</title>
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		<dc:creator>AreWeDoneYet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, these prices you are paying seem to be way too high. Also, one thing I am noticing in this thread is that you are running into cost overruns.

The only way around this issue is to try and get as much of your stuff prefabricated and know exactly whats being delivered. By this I mean you gotta know up to a dot how much things are going to cost. I am planning on building this coming spring or summer of 2012. I have decided to go with a prefabricated modular type home. 

This type of home is exactly like the site framed ones except all the framing is done in a factory and panels delivered to site, where they are then assembled in a just a few days. For me the major advantage is that I know exactly how much the shell of my house will cost me and there will be no materials wasted and no issues with framers not showing up e.t.c . I am leaning towards the packages from Cameron Manors: http://www.cameronmanors.com/View-Plans-Pricing.page
At least they let me know the upfront price of my home. Their package is up to lock up stage. Also, I will have zero architect fees - just drafting to match my lot, since the y supply me with plans.

I will have to do the interior finishes myself. Again, in keeping in line with my predictable and controllable costs principle, I am going with Ikea for my kitchen. Their kitchens are real bang for the buck and can offer a sophisticated champagne look on a beer budget. Their website has 3 dimensional software for planning your kitchen. They can also come to your house to do the actual measurements. When you buy kitchen cabinetry and appliances from them you also get 20% back in Ikea gift cards. Trust me this comes in handy when purchasing stuff like bathroom sinks, organization and lighting. All I will do is pay for installation labour as a factor of total material costs, if I do not get the time to install the Ikea kitchen myself. A caveat. My new home will just be middle class McMansion and more expensive finishing will not marginally increase the resale. If you are building in an upmarket area it could be a different game.

As for flooring and tiling. I will hire an uncle who does that for a living. He will still charge me but at least he will not try to gouge me. 

As for landscaping, I will just hire some muscle off craigslist and supervise them.

I will be acting as my own general contractor. A lot of my subs will be moonlighting for me on weekends and to make sure they do a good job most payments will be made upon passing city inspections. I gotta cut as many corners as I can. Since I will be working, a lot of work will be done on weekends. That is why I would rather have the house built in a factory and just put together on site like a bunch of legos. Also, I would advise any prospective owner-GC to take up a weekend job as a construction labourer. You will be amazed at how much you can learn in just one month. Been doing it for almost 3 months know. Have seen concrete being poured, have seen floor joists put in place, know the difference between a 2x4 and a 2x6, have applied a membrane to a foundation e.t.c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, these prices you are paying seem to be way too high. Also, one thing I am noticing in this thread is that you are running into cost overruns.</p>
<p>The only way around this issue is to try and get as much of your stuff prefabricated and know exactly whats being delivered. By this I mean you gotta know up to a dot how much things are going to cost. I am planning on building this coming spring or summer of 2012. I have decided to go with a prefabricated modular type home. </p>
<p>This type of home is exactly like the site framed ones except all the framing is done in a factory and panels delivered to site, where they are then assembled in a just a few days. For me the major advantage is that I know exactly how much the shell of my house will cost me and there will be no materials wasted and no issues with framers not showing up e.t.c . I am leaning towards the packages from Cameron Manors: <a href="http://www.cameronmanors.com/View-Plans-Pricing.page" rel="nofollow">http://www.cameronmanors.com/View-Plans-Pricing.page</a><br />
At least they let me know the upfront price of my home. Their package is up to lock up stage. Also, I will have zero architect fees &#8211; just drafting to match my lot, since the y supply me with plans.</p>
<p>I will have to do the interior finishes myself. Again, in keeping in line with my predictable and controllable costs principle, I am going with Ikea for my kitchen. Their kitchens are real bang for the buck and can offer a sophisticated champagne look on a beer budget. Their website has 3 dimensional software for planning your kitchen. They can also come to your house to do the actual measurements. When you buy kitchen cabinetry and appliances from them you also get 20% back in Ikea gift cards. Trust me this comes in handy when purchasing stuff like bathroom sinks, organization and lighting. All I will do is pay for installation labour as a factor of total material costs, if I do not get the time to install the Ikea kitchen myself. A caveat. My new home will just be middle class McMansion and more expensive finishing will not marginally increase the resale. If you are building in an upmarket area it could be a different game.</p>
<p>As for flooring and tiling. I will hire an uncle who does that for a living. He will still charge me but at least he will not try to gouge me. </p>
<p>As for landscaping, I will just hire some muscle off craigslist and supervise them.</p>
<p>I will be acting as my own general contractor. A lot of my subs will be moonlighting for me on weekends and to make sure they do a good job most payments will be made upon passing city inspections. I gotta cut as many corners as I can. Since I will be working, a lot of work will be done on weekends. That is why I would rather have the house built in a factory and just put together on site like a bunch of legos. Also, I would advise any prospective owner-GC to take up a weekend job as a construction labourer. You will be amazed at how much you can learn in just one month. Been doing it for almost 3 months know. Have seen concrete being poured, have seen floor joists put in place, know the difference between a 2&#215;4 and a 2&#215;6, have applied a membrane to a foundation e.t.c</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone, here is a question I was hoping we could debate.
I am looking to be my own general and pick and choose trades and look for the best materials price around Barrie Ontario.
Recently I started to seriously looking at having Viceroy do the build up to close in and raw framing inside. They currently have 28.5% off their packages.
My question is two fold:
1. Has anyone dealt with Viceroy and what are the experiences ?
2. Would anyone have ever done the comparison of Viceroy materials cost vs just designing a comparible and ordering the materials yourself ?

Thanks. Please help :) This is a big undertaking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone, here is a question I was hoping we could debate.<br />
I am looking to be my own general and pick and choose trades and look for the best materials price around Barrie Ontario.<br />
Recently I started to seriously looking at having Viceroy do the build up to close in and raw framing inside. They currently have 28.5% off their packages.<br />
My question is two fold:<br />
1. Has anyone dealt with Viceroy and what are the experiences ?<br />
2. Would anyone have ever done the comparison of Viceroy materials cost vs just designing a comparible and ordering the materials yourself ?</p>
<p>Thanks. Please help :) This is a big undertaking</p>
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		<title>By: Sinzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sinzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacquie, could you send me, by email, the name and the contact details of your framer, please?
My email is: sinziandre@yahoo.com
Thanks a lot!
Sinzi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacquie, could you send me, by email, the name and the contact details of your framer, please?<br />
My email is: <a href="mailto:sinziandre@yahoo.com">sinziandre@yahoo.com</a><br />
Thanks a lot!<br />
Sinzi</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquie</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/the-cost-of-building-a-house.htm/comment-page-2#comment-120236</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacquie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 14:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, if you would like to see our house google 111 Emily St. W. Newcastle, we recently listed it, I can answer you questions, we were really happy with our framer, our building inspector said if he was building a house, he would use our guys...he knew of them and said they are some of the best in the area</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, if you would like to see our house google 111 Emily St. W. Newcastle, we recently listed it, I can answer you questions, we were really happy with our framer, our building inspector said if he was building a house, he would use our guys&#8230;he knew of them and said they are some of the best in the area</p>
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		<title>By: Paul in Uxbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in Uxbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 13:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jacquie if you&#039;re still out there. I&#039;m contemplating a build north east of Newcastle and would like to talk to your framer and home designer, given you&#039;ve had good experiences with both.

gta builder is bang on, by the way. You can add over $50/s.f. to your price simply by blowing the budget on kitchens and baths!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jacquie if you&#8217;re still out there. I&#8217;m contemplating a build north east of Newcastle and would like to talk to your framer and home designer, given you&#8217;ve had good experiences with both.</p>
<p>gta builder is bang on, by the way. You can add over $50/s.f. to your price simply by blowing the budget on kitchens and baths!</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, extrememly sorry to hear that. I guess its important to have all the neighbours on board.

I heard that building permits cost ~$25 in the city, $10k seems pretty low. I guess that&#039;s a good thing.

This past weekend, I visited a custom built home in Oakville, just to check out the finishes and talk to the company. The cost to build this ~3200 sq ft home is $600k (excl. land), it quoted $165/sq ft but the buyer also pays for building permits ($25k), demolition ($12-15k), landscaping, HST, etc.

That said, the cost to build is going up in a couple of months, I guess that&#039;s the trend across all GTA.

Hopefully check out a few more over the coming months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, extrememly sorry to hear that. I guess its important to have all the neighbours on board.</p>
<p>I heard that building permits cost ~$25 in the city, $10k seems pretty low. I guess that&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>This past weekend, I visited a custom built home in Oakville, just to check out the finishes and talk to the company. The cost to build this ~3200 sq ft home is $600k (excl. land), it quoted $165/sq ft but the buyer also pays for building permits ($25k), demolition ($12-15k), landscaping, HST, etc.</p>
<p>That said, the cost to build is going up in a couple of months, I guess that&#8217;s the trend across all GTA.</p>
<p>Hopefully check out a few more over the coming months.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning, &quot;G&quot;. It&#039;s been so long that I can&#039;t remember where I left off, lol.

Anyway, the end result was that we couldn&#039;t build our house on our property because of our SOB next door neighbour. 

Back in the day, there was a walkway that went through our property and across a number of other properties that provided access to the river for neighbours who didn&#039;t have their own.

Everybody has had their own access for many years now and everyone signed off on this &quot;easement&quot; back then except for our next door SOB. 

To make a long story short, he&#039;s stopping us from building our house, the way we wanted to build it, anyway. Part of our house and the 3 garages, would have been built on the easement. 

We dropped over $10,000 on our house plans alone, plus building and demolition permits, the Conservation Authority permit and more, all lost money, due to the jealousy of this &quot;man&quot;.

We now have the property up for sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning, &#8220;G&#8221;. It&#8217;s been so long that I can&#8217;t remember where I left off, lol.</p>
<p>Anyway, the end result was that we couldn&#8217;t build our house on our property because of our SOB next door neighbour. </p>
<p>Back in the day, there was a walkway that went through our property and across a number of other properties that provided access to the river for neighbours who didn&#8217;t have their own.</p>
<p>Everybody has had their own access for many years now and everyone signed off on this &#8220;easement&#8221; back then except for our next door SOB. </p>
<p>To make a long story short, he&#8217;s stopping us from building our house, the way we wanted to build it, anyway. Part of our house and the 3 garages, would have been built on the easement. </p>
<p>We dropped over $10,000 on our house plans alone, plus building and demolition permits, the Conservation Authority permit and more, all lost money, due to the jealousy of this &#8220;man&#8221;.</p>
<p>We now have the property up for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, it&#039;s been a while since your last update. Any tips you&#039;d share with us??

I take it that you went with Advantage homes at the end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, it&#8217;s been a while since your last update. Any tips you&#8217;d share with us??</p>
<p>I take it that you went with Advantage homes at the end?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know what the current cost per sq ft is to build a high end custom home in edmonton alberta currently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what the current cost per sq ft is to build a high end custom home in edmonton alberta currently?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do not know what you are doing do not install pot lights or any other electrical systems. 12 per circuit? It depends what is on the circuit, do not follow that advice. An electrician should be consulted when installing electrical unless you enjoy seeing your hosue go up in smoke :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do not know what you are doing do not install pot lights or any other electrical systems. 12 per circuit? It depends what is on the circuit, do not follow that advice. An electrician should be consulted when installing electrical unless you enjoy seeing your hosue go up in smoke :)</p>
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		<title>By: gta builder</title>
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		<dc:creator>gta builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Builder in the GTA, I can not hold myself back from posting on this page.
Everyones rule of thumb should and needs to be:
&quot;YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR&quot; - for the most part.
If you want a fly by night contractor with no insurance, no Tarion warranty, cash deal type...may God bless you on your journey.
Labour prices have climbed through the roof in recent years, not because the trades are on an early retirement plan, but because insurance, fuel, WSIB, supplys and most of all TAXES have climbed through the roof.
As for a $/sq.ft, this is the question of questions.
Here are a few items that will increase your cost per square foot:

- roof plan, pitch of roof, height of roof, complexity of roof design
- Foundation size (as joe mentioned)
- ceiling heights
- amount of steel used in the structural design of your home
- exterior finished (stucco, brick, stone, wood, aluminum etc)
- overall size of your home, once you exceed a certain size you will require an additional furnace, a/c unit, larger water lines etc.

the above items have nothing to do with the finishing of your home, where you will be faced with the difficult choice of better vs. keeping your budget in check.

with all this said, in the GTA not including your land, with a finished basement, 2 car garage, solid maple or cherry cabinets, built-ins, granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, plaster crown mouldings, 9-10 ft ceilings, brick and stone exterior etcetc.....a builder with a reputation (has built more then 1 house before) will not build your house for under $200/sq.ft PLUS your 13% HST

hope this helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Builder in the GTA, I can not hold myself back from posting on this page.<br />
Everyones rule of thumb should and needs to be:<br />
&#8220;YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR&#8221; &#8211; for the most part.<br />
If you want a fly by night contractor with no insurance, no Tarion warranty, cash deal type&#8230;may God bless you on your journey.<br />
Labour prices have climbed through the roof in recent years, not because the trades are on an early retirement plan, but because insurance, fuel, WSIB, supplys and most of all TAXES have climbed through the roof.<br />
As for a $/sq.ft, this is the question of questions.<br />
Here are a few items that will increase your cost per square foot:</p>
<p>- roof plan, pitch of roof, height of roof, complexity of roof design<br />
- Foundation size (as joe mentioned)<br />
- ceiling heights<br />
- amount of steel used in the structural design of your home<br />
- exterior finished (stucco, brick, stone, wood, aluminum etc)<br />
- overall size of your home, once you exceed a certain size you will require an additional furnace, a/c unit, larger water lines etc.</p>
<p>the above items have nothing to do with the finishing of your home, where you will be faced with the difficult choice of better vs. keeping your budget in check.</p>
<p>with all this said, in the GTA not including your land, with a finished basement, 2 car garage, solid maple or cherry cabinets, built-ins, granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, plaster crown mouldings, 9-10 ft ceilings, brick and stone exterior etcetc&#8230;..a builder with a reputation (has built more then 1 house before) will not build your house for under $200/sq.ft PLUS your 13% HST</p>
<p>hope this helps</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 19:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big question I have is do these prices included labour and what is the labour being charged in some places like Ontario, Calgary and B.C.?

I just priced a cost to frame out a 2000 square foot home.  Price for materials was $78,000.  Includes windows, trims, roofing, siding and drywall, etc.  Also includeds tax.  Don&#039;t care what you say, but drywall comes in one colou and it&#039;s all the same price folks.  Now you can also get siding at $500 a square, but I am being realitsitc here.

You can then add to all that labour (30-50K), price of land, foundation ($20K here or less for knee wall), electrical $10K, plumbing $10K, floors 5-20 per foot, lanscapring 5-20K, paint and plaster $10K driveway $1-15K.

With basic light and plumbing fixtures (not necessarily cheap, but not idioticcaly overpriced either), shopping around for good flooring prices, then no reason my finisdhed price here would be as follows.

$78000 (tax in)
$30000  labour
$15000 knee wall
$16000 flooring
$10000 electrical
$10000 plumbing
$10000 paint and plaster
$5000 landscsaping
$5000 Driveway

$179,000  Total.  Now I know I have missed a few things (land price - miens cheap here), but that&#039;s about $90 per square foot in Newfoundland.  I know I can do better on labour and flooring prices at some good dealers and by finding my own crew.

Surely, you would think materials would be more competitive in Ontario.  Can&#039;t imagine what guys make to frame and plaster a home.  I suggest that is where the Delat lies, as well as the land.  $100K for a postage stamp lot in Ontario adds $55 per sq ft to build an 1800 square foot home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big question I have is do these prices included labour and what is the labour being charged in some places like Ontario, Calgary and B.C.?</p>
<p>I just priced a cost to frame out a 2000 square foot home.  Price for materials was $78,000.  Includes windows, trims, roofing, siding and drywall, etc.  Also includeds tax.  Don&#8217;t care what you say, but drywall comes in one colou and it&#8217;s all the same price folks.  Now you can also get siding at $500 a square, but I am being realitsitc here.</p>
<p>You can then add to all that labour (30-50K), price of land, foundation ($20K here or less for knee wall), electrical $10K, plumbing $10K, floors 5-20 per foot, lanscapring 5-20K, paint and plaster $10K driveway $1-15K.</p>
<p>With basic light and plumbing fixtures (not necessarily cheap, but not idioticcaly overpriced either), shopping around for good flooring prices, then no reason my finisdhed price here would be as follows.</p>
<p>$78000 (tax in)<br />
$30000  labour<br />
$15000 knee wall<br />
$16000 flooring<br />
$10000 electrical<br />
$10000 plumbing<br />
$10000 paint and plaster<br />
$5000 landscsaping<br />
$5000 Driveway</p>
<p>$179,000  Total.  Now I know I have missed a few things (land price &#8211; miens cheap here), but that&#8217;s about $90 per square foot in Newfoundland.  I know I can do better on labour and flooring prices at some good dealers and by finding my own crew.</p>
<p>Surely, you would think materials would be more competitive in Ontario.  Can&#8217;t imagine what guys make to frame and plaster a home.  I suggest that is where the Delat lies, as well as the land.  $100K for a postage stamp lot in Ontario adds $55 per sq ft to build an 1800 square foot home.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With rising real estate appreciation around here (NL), some friends of ours just closed a house last week for $175 per sq ft of livable space (ie. not including basement/garage).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With rising real estate appreciation around here (NL), some friends of ours just closed a house last week for $175 per sq ft of livable space (ie. not including basement/garage).</p>
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		<title>By: Spankie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joe for your speedy response! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe for your speedy response! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spankie: Absolutely, I highly recommend Advantage Homes first and foremost. Super quality at a fair price.

Brent: Cell Phone 705 623-4877
http://www.advantage-homes.ca/

Another good builder up here is Father &amp; Son. 

Pat: Cell Phone 705 444-4306
http://www.fatherandsonconstruction.com/home.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spankie: Absolutely, I highly recommend Advantage Homes first and foremost. Super quality at a fair price.</p>
<p>Brent: Cell Phone 705 623-4877<br />
<a href="http://www.advantage-homes.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.advantage-homes.ca/</a></p>
<p>Another good builder up here is Father &amp; Son. </p>
<p>Pat: Cell Phone 705 444-4306<br />
<a href="http://www.fatherandsonconstruction.com/home.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.fatherandsonconstruction.com/home.php</a></p>
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