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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow how lucky are you to only have to pay $900 for daycare for 2 kids, I pay $1100/month for one kid here in Newfoundland, and my wages are probably half od what they would be in Quebec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow how lucky are you to only have to pay $900 for daycare for 2 kids, I pay $1100/month for one kid here in Newfoundland, and my wages are probably half od what they would be in Quebec.</p>
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		<title>By: The Choice Between Daycare and Staying at Home &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Choice Between Daycare and Staying at Home &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] summarize the email, the reader is basically stating that we&#8217;re putting making money ahead of getting the best care for our children. I guess since I fully disclose everything about my financial life, it may seem that all of our [...]</description>
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<p>[...] summarize the email, the reader is basically stating that we&#8217;re putting making money ahead of getting the best care for our children. I guess since I fully disclose everything about my financial life, it may seem that all of our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Satin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Satin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about the parents&#039; FINANCES, but this &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.daycaresdontcare.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;anti-daycare&lt;/a&gt; website states it&#039;s not better for the kids&#039; WELL BEING....
http://www.daycaresdontcare.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the parents&#8217; FINANCES, but this <a HREF="http://www.daycaresdontcare.org" rel="nofollow">anti-daycare</a> website states it&#8217;s not better for the kids&#8217; WELL BEING&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://www.daycaresdontcare.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.daycaresdontcare.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, that is a very personal decision.  By the looks of things, you have your expenses under control and shouldn&#039;t have a problem with 1 income.  You also have to account for childcare expenses if both of you were to work full time.  AFAIK, most daycares won&#039;t even take newborns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, that is a very personal decision.  By the looks of things, you have your expenses under control and shouldn&#8217;t have a problem with 1 income.  You also have to account for childcare expenses if both of you were to work full time.  AFAIK, most daycares won&#8217;t even take newborns.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I NEED HELP!

We are expecting our first child in june.My wife wants to still work fulltime as a (teacher)that pays around 42,000 a yr.My income is around 45,000 a yr.

She has the advantage of doing job share which is part-time in her company. That is what i would like her to do, but she thinks we couldnt afford it.Our rent now is $300 a mnth, plus some some bills that equal around $1000 a mnth. Her biggest thing is she wants to buy a house asap and wants to put $down.

The question is ....should my wife work full-time or job share part-time?</description>
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<p>We are expecting our first child in june.My wife wants to still work fulltime as a (teacher)that pays around 42,000 a yr.My income is around 45,000 a yr.</p>
<p>She has the advantage of doing job share which is part-time in her company. That is what i would like her to do, but she thinks we couldnt afford it.Our rent now is $300 a mnth, plus some some bills that equal around $1000 a mnth. Her biggest thing is she wants to buy a house asap and wants to put $down.</p>
<p>The question is &#8230;.should my wife work full-time or job share part-time?</p>
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		<title>By: Spousal Amount, UCCB, and CCTB! &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spousal Amount, UCCB, and CCTB! &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  FrugalTrader05:00 am16 Comments  Permalink Last week, I answered a reader question regarding whether it was better financially for one spouse to stay at home with the kids, or for both parents ... From within the answer that I put together, I mentioned the Spousal Amount, Day Care Expenses, [...]</description>
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<p>[...]  FrugalTrader05:00 am16 Comments  Permalink Last week, I answered a reader question regarding whether it was better financially for one spouse to stay at home with the kids, or for both parents &#8230; From within the answer that I put together, I mentioned the Spousal Amount, Day Care Expenses, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cross the River</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cross the River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT

One problem about the 7$/day daycare. You got to put your kid&#039;s name on a waiting list before he/she is born and sometimes, you&#039;ll still be waiting many years before you get a place.</description>
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<p>One problem about the 7$/day daycare. You got to put your kid&#8217;s name on a waiting list before he/she is born and sometimes, you&#8217;ll still be waiting many years before you get a place.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader Mail: How can the bread winner reduce taxes? &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader Mail: How can the bread winner reduce taxes? &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sure to take advantage of all your child care tax credits. Check out a case study that I wrote [...]</description>
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<p>[...] sure to take advantage of all your child care tax credits. Check out a case study that I wrote [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/stay-at-home-with-the-kids-or-work.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7939</link>
		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I have RRSP&#039;s accounted for in the net income calculations above.  In spousal RRSP&#039;s, the contribution amount is limited by the contributors contribution limit (18% of previous years income).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I have RRSP&#8217;s accounted for in the net income calculations above.  In spousal RRSP&#8217;s, the contribution amount is limited by the contributors contribution limit (18% of previous years income).</p>
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		<title>By: David Magda</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Magda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing that is not mentioned: if the wife is not working, what about her retirement plan?

This can affect her down the road unless you have a share planned. Is it possible to take spousal RRSP conrtibutions into account (or have they already)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that is not mentioned: if the wife is not working, what about her retirement plan?</p>
<p>This can affect her down the road unless you have a share planned. Is it possible to take spousal RRSP conrtibutions into account (or have they already)?</p>
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		<title>By: Vancouver Dad - Fatherhood in Vancouver, British Columbia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Should Spouse Stay at Home with the Kids or Work?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vancouver Dad - Fatherhood in Vancouver, British Columbia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Should Spouse Stay at Home with the Kids or Work?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you&#8217;re wondering what the numbers look like, the personal finance blog Million Dollar Journey, has crunched them for you. The article assumes two kids and one parent making $69,000 annually, and considers three scenarios: wife at home with kids full-time, wife at home with kids working part-time on weekends, and both parents working full-time with the kids in daycare. It turns out that having both parents working full-time yields more after tax income in your pocket. It probably helps that the parents live in Quebec with its heavily subsidized child care system. So I was wondering what the numbers would look like in British Columbia&#8230; [...]</description>
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<p>[...] If you&#8217;re wondering what the numbers look like, the personal finance blog Million Dollar Journey, has crunched them for you. The article assumes two kids and one parent making $69,000 annually, and considers three scenarios: wife at home with kids full-time, wife at home with kids working part-time on weekends, and both parents working full-time with the kids in daycare. It turns out that having both parents working full-time yields more after tax income in your pocket. It probably helps that the parents live in Quebec with its heavily subsidized child care system. So I was wondering what the numbers would look like in British Columbia&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the choice to be made is not only about finances. But when deciding, the financial aspect comes first unfortunately! We don&#039;t quite know what we will do yet... :
- both working would probably transform life into a stressing running after schedule kind of thing
- wife staying at home 100% is a full time job in itself and it could be too much at times for her... 

We need to explore the idea of creating a private daycare for as long as we want to keep our kids home! Like said, it could be a small business with the advantages that brings... it could give the kids the opportunity to be with other kids as well... interesting! 

Thanks again to all for these efforts in calculating / debating the topic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the choice to be made is not only about finances. But when deciding, the financial aspect comes first unfortunately! We don&#8217;t quite know what we will do yet&#8230; :<br />
- both working would probably transform life into a stressing running after schedule kind of thing<br />
- wife staying at home 100% is a full time job in itself and it could be too much at times for her&#8230; </p>
<p>We need to explore the idea of creating a private daycare for as long as we want to keep our kids home! Like said, it could be a small business with the advantages that brings&#8230; it could give the kids the opportunity to be with other kids as well&#8230; interesting! </p>
<p>Thanks again to all for these efforts in calculating / debating the topic!</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey CC,  Yes, I made a mistake.  I put in the &quot;after tax income&quot; as the net income in the calculator.  OOOPS!  Going to fix the calculations now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey CC,  Yes, I made a mistake.  I put in the &#8220;after tax income&#8221; as the net income in the calculator.  OOOPS!  Going to fix the calculations now.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ-IAmFacingMillions.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ-IAmFacingMillions.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot more to consider than merely the financial aspects of this.  How much of a difference would it make in the children&#039;s lives and the quality of the life for the entire family?

Even from a purely financial standpoint, what about costs associated with the job.  If nothing else, gasoline is so how these days that unless you work really close to home, that can be substantial over the course of a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot more to consider than merely the financial aspects of this.  How much of a difference would it make in the children&#8217;s lives and the quality of the life for the entire family?</p>
<p>Even from a purely financial standpoint, what about costs associated with the job.  If nothing else, gasoline is so how these days that unless you work really close to home, that can be substantial over the course of a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT: As I mentioned in the email, I followed up with a post on our experience on this subject. For us, it wasn&#039;t mainly a financial decision. My wife would have been miserable being a full-time mom and not working at least part-time (we might still go the part-time route in the future). 

Our CCTB calculations seem to come out differently. How did you calculate net income for the calculator? I used 69K - 18% RRSP contribution for scenario 1 and 58K - 18% RRSP contribution - $10,800 child care expenses for the spouse&#039;s net income in scenario 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT: As I mentioned in the email, I followed up with a post on our experience on this subject. For us, it wasn&#8217;t mainly a financial decision. My wife would have been miserable being a full-time mom and not working at least part-time (we might still go the part-time route in the future). </p>
<p>Our CCTB calculations seem to come out differently. How did you calculate net income for the calculator? I used 69K &#8211; 18% RRSP contribution for scenario 1 and 58K &#8211; 18% RRSP contribution &#8211; $10,800 child care expenses for the spouse&#8217;s net income in scenario 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Stay at Home with the Kids or Work?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stay at Home with the Kids or Work?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Million Dollar Journey posted about the financial angle of one of the parents opting to stay at home with the kids. I only have one minor point to add to his analysis: You&#8217;ll also have to account for the Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB), a tax-free monthly payment made to eligible families with children under 18. The CCTB is based on your family&#8217;s net income (line 236 of your tax return), which for most people would be total income less RRSP contributions, child care expenses, loan interest deductions etc. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Million Dollar Journey posted about the financial angle of one of the parents opting to stay at home with the kids. I only have one minor point to add to his analysis: You&#8217;ll also have to account for the Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB), a tax-free monthly payment made to eligible families with children under 18. The CCTB is based on your family&#8217;s net income (line 236 of your tax return), which for most people would be total income less RRSP contributions, child care expenses, loan interest deductions etc. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Financial Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Financial Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you operate a small daycare in Quebec, you don&#039;t need licence. However, CPE (government daycare) licences are harder to get. Actually, I&#039;m not even sure they are giving more as this system cost so much!
It&#039;s amazing to have 7$ daycare but I don&#039;t think that we (Quebec) can afford it. Thanks to Alberta and BC that send money to us!
Cheers,
FB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you operate a small daycare in Quebec, you don&#8217;t need licence. However, CPE (government daycare) licences are harder to get. Actually, I&#8217;m not even sure they are giving more as this system cost so much!<br />
It&#8217;s amazing to have 7$ daycare but I don&#8217;t think that we (Quebec) can afford it. Thanks to Alberta and BC that send money to us!<br />
Cheers,<br />
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		<title>By: Canadian Dream</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Dream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

It depends on where you live.  For example in BC you could only have two (if my memory is correct) and in SK you can have up to 8 without a license.

A license is typically not needed for smaller number of kids, but it does bring a certain amount of trust to a new facilty when you just start out.

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<p>It depends on where you live.  For example in BC you could only have two (if my memory is correct) and in SK you can have up to 8 without a license.</p>
<p>A license is typically not needed for smaller number of kids, but it does bring a certain amount of trust to a new facilty when you just start out.</p>
<p>CD</p>
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		<title>By: FourPillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>FourPillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you only need a license if you&#039;re looking after more than five kids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you only need a license if you&#8217;re looking after more than five kids?</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Dream</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Dream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT,

It depends on your province.  We found BC way easier than SK to get a daycare license.  BC it consisted of a pile of paperwork and a few inspections.  While SK there was also an interview process which I had to be involved with and even paperwork for me.  You will also need criminal records checks and typically some sort of related education or the intent to get that education.  

The pay off of getting a license is free advertising from the government (they usually have a list of places with a license) and typically you can apply for various grants to help cover some start up costs or even operating costs.  For example, in SK once we got the license my wife got a $700 grant to buy/upgrade her equipment.

Typical startup costs can be cheap.  I think the first daycare my wife only spent around $2000 total.  

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<p>It depends on your province.  We found BC way easier than SK to get a daycare license.  BC it consisted of a pile of paperwork and a few inspections.  While SK there was also an interview process which I had to be involved with and even paperwork for me.  You will also need criminal records checks and typically some sort of related education or the intent to get that education.  </p>
<p>The pay off of getting a license is free advertising from the government (they usually have a list of places with a license) and typically you can apply for various grants to help cover some start up costs or even operating costs.  For example, in SK once we got the license my wife got a $700 grant to buy/upgrade her equipment.</p>
<p>Typical startup costs can be cheap.  I think the first daycare my wife only spent around $2000 total.  </p>
<p>CD</p>
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