<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Retiring Early &#8211; Part 1 (The Expenses)</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm</link>
	<description>Building Wealth through Saving and Investing</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:56:43 -0330</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Ready for some serious fund</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-119661</link>
		<dc:creator>Ready for some serious fund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 03:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-119661</guid>
		<description>I came up with a $60,000 need in today dollars for a couple to retire ($45,000 for a single person).  That assumes no mortgage and US health care costs, taxes and a generous $1,000 a month for vacation/fun.  I&#039;m 45, have been working since I could calculate the value of it (about age 6), and figure I still have 5 working years left. I&#039;d &#039;retire&#039; today if I could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came up with a $60,000 need in today dollars for a couple to retire ($45,000 for a single person).  That assumes no mortgage and US health care costs, taxes and a generous $1,000 a month for vacation/fun.  I&#8217;m 45, have been working since I could calculate the value of it (about age 6), and figure I still have 5 working years left. I&#8217;d &#8216;retire&#8217; today if I could.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: A Primer on Real Return Bonds &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-115825</link>
		<dc:creator>A Primer on Real Return Bonds &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-115825</guid>
		<description>[...] Variation. If the bond investor is planning to use income from RRBs for his monthly expenses, then he would be better off with a sufficient emergency cushion to ride out the fluctuations in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="border: solid #DDD; padding: 0.5em;">
<p>[...] Variation. If the bond investor is planning to use income from RRBs for his monthly expenses, then he would be better off with a sufficient emergency cushion to ride out the fluctuations in [...]</p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113168</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 23:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-113168</guid>
		<description>@DaveStewart: You&#039;re doing retirement planning exactly as somebody should do it, particularly if you&#039;re very close to retirement - figure out your current expenses, extrapolate for inflation, and match it up to your anticipated income.

Problem is, it simply isn&#039;t possible for somebody in their 30s or 40s to get a good estimate of their day-to-day expenses when they&#039;re in their late 50s or 60s and preparing to retire.  For younger people, a percentage of pre-retirement income is as good as a guess as any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DaveStewart: You&#8217;re doing retirement planning exactly as somebody should do it, particularly if you&#8217;re very close to retirement &#8211; figure out your current expenses, extrapolate for inflation, and match it up to your anticipated income.</p>
<p>Problem is, it simply isn&#8217;t possible for somebody in their 30s or 40s to get a good estimate of their day-to-day expenses when they&#8217;re in their late 50s or 60s and preparing to retire.  For younger people, a percentage of pre-retirement income is as good as a guess as any.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dave Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113154</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 17:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-113154</guid>
		<description>I am 63 years old and plan to retire this year.  I&#039;ve never understood all the mystery attached to financial planning.  If you have some dexterity with Excel it is simply a matter of extrapolating your current expenses and identifying where the money is going to come from.  With excel you can plug in various percentages for inflation and pretax investment return...the results are typically what one would expect..inflation is the big risk.  In my case if I can have pretax investment returns of 1% over inflation and inflation remains below 12% (not unforeseeable for those of us who lived through the early 80&#039;s), and I don&#039;t live past 90 I&#039;m OK.  The one thing that really bugs me is the idea of a average percentage of pre-retirement income required to retire comfortably.  Every situation is somewhat unique and the use of an average is a for neophyte financial planners with no real understanding of common sense financial planning.  In my case my  expenses, and hence my income requirements, will increase after I require because I will lose my company health insurance and my wife and I plan to travel a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 63 years old and plan to retire this year.  I&#8217;ve never understood all the mystery attached to financial planning.  If you have some dexterity with Excel it is simply a matter of extrapolating your current expenses and identifying where the money is going to come from.  With excel you can plug in various percentages for inflation and pretax investment return&#8230;the results are typically what one would expect..inflation is the big risk.  In my case if I can have pretax investment returns of 1% over inflation and inflation remains below 12% (not unforeseeable for those of us who lived through the early 80&#8217;s), and I don&#8217;t live past 90 I&#8217;m OK.  The one thing that really bugs me is the idea of a average percentage of pre-retirement income required to retire comfortably.  Every situation is somewhat unique and the use of an average is a for neophyte financial planners with no real understanding of common sense financial planning.  In my case my  expenses, and hence my income requirements, will increase after I require because I will lose my company health insurance and my wife and I plan to travel a bit.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dave Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-113153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 17:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-113153</guid>
		<description>I am 63 years old and plan to retire this year.  I&#039;ve never understood all the mystery attached to financial planning.  If you have some dexterity with Excel it is simply a matter of extrapolating your current expenses and identifying where the money is going to come from.  With excel you can plug in various percentages for inflation and pretax investment return...the results are typically what one would expect..inflation is the big risk.  In my case if I can have pretax investment returns of 1% over inflation and inflation remains below 12% (not unforeseeable for those of us who lived through the early 80&#039;s), and I don&#039;t live past 90 I&#039;m OK.  The one thing that really bugs me is the idea of a average percentage of pre-retirement income required to retire comfortably.  Every situation is somewhat unique and the use of an average is a for neophyte financial planners with no real understanding of common sense financial planning.  In my case my  expenses, and hence my income requirements, will increase after I require because I will lose my company health insurance and my wife and I plan to travel a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 63 years old and plan to retire this year.  I&#8217;ve never understood all the mystery attached to financial planning.  If you have some dexterity with Excel it is simply a matter of extrapolating your current expenses and identifying where the money is going to come from.  With excel you can plug in various percentages for inflation and pretax investment return&#8230;the results are typically what one would expect..inflation is the big risk.  In my case if I can have pretax investment returns of 1% over inflation and inflation remains below 12% (not unforeseeable for those of us who lived through the early 80&#8217;s), and I don&#8217;t live past 90 I&#8217;m OK.  The one thing that really bugs me is the idea of a average percentage of pre-retirement income required to retire comfortably.  Every situation is somewhat unique and the use of an average is a for neophyte financial planners with no real understanding of common sense financial planning.  In my case my  expenses, and hence my income requirements, will increase after I require because I will lose my company health insurance and my wife and I plan to travel a bit.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brian Poncelet, CFP</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111925</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Poncelet, CFP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-111925</guid>
		<description>I try to look financial risks. Here are the four &quot;obvious&quot; ones: 

   1. living too long (longevity) 
   2. dying too soon (mortality)
   3. getting sick (morbidity)
   4. getting disabled (disability)

A fifth risk often gets overlooked: overpaying taxes through ignorance.   Few realize how effective life insurance can be when properly structured.

Do you anyone who falls in the 4 risks listed above? 

Right now you are focusing on mutual funds.  If you get disabled or get sick how does the mutual fund help?  What about poor returns when you need the money the most?  If you get sick will some one continue to put money in your  mutual fund account?  What about fees?  Are they guaranteed?  Or returns are they guaranteed?

This is not to say mutual funds are bad, just limited.  I am talking about risk management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to look financial risks. Here are the four &#8220;obvious&#8221; ones: </p>
<p>   1. living too long (longevity)<br />
   2. dying too soon (mortality)<br />
   3. getting sick (morbidity)<br />
   4. getting disabled (disability)</p>
<p>A fifth risk often gets overlooked: overpaying taxes through ignorance.   Few realize how effective life insurance can be when properly structured.</p>
<p>Do you anyone who falls in the 4 risks listed above? </p>
<p>Right now you are focusing on mutual funds.  If you get disabled or get sick how does the mutual fund help?  What about poor returns when you need the money the most?  If you get sick will some one continue to put money in your  mutual fund account?  What about fees?  Are they guaranteed?  Or returns are they guaranteed?</p>
<p>This is not to say mutual funds are bad, just limited.  I am talking about risk management.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ed Rempel</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111914</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Rempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-111914</guid>
		<description>Hi Brian,

The main issue with universal life insurance is that you have to pay for the cost of permanent insurance. The benefit for ULs can be larger for GIC/bond investors in order to avoid tax every year, but again you can get almost all the benefits without the large insurance cost.

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>The main issue with universal life insurance is that you have to pay for the cost of permanent insurance. The benefit for ULs can be larger for GIC/bond investors in order to avoid tax every year, but again you can get almost all the benefits without the large insurance cost.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brian Poncelet,CFP</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111913</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Poncelet,CFP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-111913</guid>
		<description>Hi Ed,

You need to read &quot;How Annuities work&quot; and &quot;Using Universal life insurance with Corporations&quot;.  Life insurance gives more options.  If cash flow is very tight then permanent insurance may not work, just like buying RRSPs.  Corporate class mutual funds (which I own) are not guaranteed and is like having  only one tool... which is not only the answer.

If you are in Oakville, I will see if I can get the book for for you.

cheers,

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed,</p>
<p>You need to read &#8220;How Annuities work&#8221; and &#8220;Using Universal life insurance with Corporations&#8221;.  Life insurance gives more options.  If cash flow is very tight then permanent insurance may not work, just like buying RRSPs.  Corporate class mutual funds (which I own) are not guaranteed and is like having  only one tool&#8230; which is not only the answer.</p>
<p>If you are in Oakville, I will see if I can get the book for for you.</p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>Brian</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ed Rempel</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111912</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Rempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-111912</guid>
		<description>Hi Brian,

Permanent life insurance is not competitive, except for people that already have a permanent insurance need. That means they need to know now that they will need life insurance for their entire life.

For nearly everybody, life insurance is only necessary for income replacement, so you can make sure those financially dependent on you will be okay if something should happen to you.

Very few people actually have a permanent life insurance need, so why pay the full cost of it, just so you can get tax deferral on investment income? There are other ways to get a tax deferral, such as corporate class mutual funds.



Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>Permanent life insurance is not competitive, except for people that already have a permanent insurance need. That means they need to know now that they will need life insurance for their entire life.</p>
<p>For nearly everybody, life insurance is only necessary for income replacement, so you can make sure those financially dependent on you will be okay if something should happen to you.</p>
<p>Very few people actually have a permanent life insurance need, so why pay the full cost of it, just so you can get tax deferral on investment income? There are other ways to get a tax deferral, such as corporate class mutual funds.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brian Poncelet,CFP</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111911</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Poncelet,CFP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-111911</guid>
		<description>FT,

A great book to read is LEAP by Robert Castiglione.  If you or your readers want a copy I will try to get one.

One of the topics is (yes, it was written in the US) is 401K&#039;s &amp; RRSPs.  all they are doing is deferring taxes into the future. So CRA, IRS wants your money plus interest!  In Canada, if you do a good job you your OAS clawed back and the age amount (age 65 see line 303 of your tax return).

What has been taught is markets always go up.  Like real esate or the stock market.

Currently there seems to be a trend to go with TFSA vs RRSPs, if you buy into in this, then looking at permanent life insurance (structured right) is a better step! 

With permanent life insurance their is almost not limit (allowed by CRA) to have all the same features of the TFSA.  In fact if you borrow from your policy to say buy a car and pay yourself back you get all your money plus interest...try that with a TFSA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT,</p>
<p>A great book to read is LEAP by Robert Castiglione.  If you or your readers want a copy I will try to get one.</p>
<p>One of the topics is (yes, it was written in the US) is 401K&#8217;s &amp; RRSPs.  all they are doing is deferring taxes into the future. So CRA, IRS wants your money plus interest!  In Canada, if you do a good job you your OAS clawed back and the age amount (age 65 see line 303 of your tax return).</p>
<p>What has been taught is markets always go up.  Like real esate or the stock market.</p>
<p>Currently there seems to be a trend to go with TFSA vs RRSPs, if you buy into in this, then looking at permanent life insurance (structured right) is a better step! </p>
<p>With permanent life insurance their is almost not limit (allowed by CRA) to have all the same features of the TFSA.  In fact if you borrow from your policy to say buy a car and pay yourself back you get all your money plus interest&#8230;try that with a TFSA!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: NIL</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-110357</link>
		<dc:creator>NIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-110357</guid>
		<description>Interestingly, I did a calculation before I discovered this, and came up with almost the same result (I got $44,700. per year).  Nice to see it confirmed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, I did a calculation before I discovered this, and came up with almost the same result (I got $44,700. per year).  Nice to see it confirmed.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: 50 Personal Finance Bloggers To Watch In 2010 &#124; Finance, credit, debt, insurance, investing, leasing, loans and mortage</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109460</link>
		<dc:creator>50 Personal Finance Bloggers To Watch In 2010 &#124; Finance, credit, debt, insurance, investing, leasing, loans and mortage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-109460</guid>
		<description>[...] Million Dollar Journey: Another Canadian blogger, the frugal trader gives solid investment and finance advice.  Recent post: Early Retirement Series [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="border: solid #DDD; padding: 0.5em;">
<p>[...] Million Dollar Journey: Another Canadian blogger, the frugal trader gives solid investment and finance advice.  Recent post: Early Retirement Series [...]</p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: -&#62; 50 Personal Finance Bloggers To Watch In 2010 &#124; Bible Money Matters</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109439</link>
		<dc:creator>-&#62; 50 Personal Finance Bloggers To Watch In 2010 &#124; Bible Money Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-109439</guid>
		<description>[...] Million Dollar Journey: Another Canadian blogger, the frugal trader gives solid investment and finance advice.  Recent post: Early Retirement Series [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="border: solid #DDD; padding: 0.5em;">
<p>[...] Million Dollar Journey: Another Canadian blogger, the frugal trader gives solid investment and finance advice.  Recent post: Early Retirement Series [...]</p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: 100 Inspiring Personal Finance Posts for the New Year &#124; Accounting Degree.com</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-109084</link>
		<dc:creator>100 Inspiring Personal Finance Posts for the New Year &#124; Accounting Degree.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-109084</guid>
		<description>[...] Retiring Early &#8211; Part 1 (The Expenses): Learn how to budget for your retirement by reading this blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="border: solid #DDD; padding: 0.5em;">
<p>[...] Retiring Early &#8211; Part 1 (The Expenses): Learn how to budget for your retirement by reading this blog. [...]</p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The 4% Retirement Rule &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-80756</link>
		<dc:creator>The 4% Retirement Rule &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-80756</guid>
		<description>[...] my Retiring Early Series, I determined that we would need around $45,000 / year to live comfortably (in todays dollars). If [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="border: solid #DDD; padding: 0.5em;">
<p>[...] my Retiring Early Series, I determined that we would need around $45,000 / year to live comfortably (in todays dollars). If [...]</p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The New Retirement Book Review and Discussion &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-70902</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Retirement Book Review and Discussion &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-70902</guid>
		<description>[...] written about early retirement before and even about the safe 4% withdrawal rule before which this book touches on.  The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="border: solid #DDD; padding: 0.5em;">
<p>[...] written about early retirement before and even about the safe 4% withdrawal rule before which this book touches on.  The [...]</p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: AL</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-52006</link>
		<dc:creator>AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-52006</guid>
		<description>It takes a lot of money to be capable of spending and retiring early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a lot of money to be capable of spending and retiring early.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cannon_fodder</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-50573</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannon_fodder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-50573</guid>
		<description>FT,

I&#039;ve gone through this a few times, and here is what I came up with for our situation in retirement.  (Of course, I went through what we no longer would have to direct money to just like you did - the remainder is to follow.)

In 2008 dollars on an annual basis....

Property Tax - $4,500 (what we currently pay - perhaps we will move to a smaller home or in a less expensive community)

Auto (down to 1 vehicle):
            Gas - $2,400
            Insurance - $1,200
            Maintenance - $1,200
            New car fund - $6,000

Home
           Insurance - $500
           Upkeep/Big Fix Fund - $1,800

Utilities

           Internet / Cable - $1,800
           Cell phone        - $600 (never owned my cell -always got it through work!)
           Water Tank      - $250
           Gas/Water/Elec - $2,800

Vacation - $6,000
Gifts - $2,000
Food - $3,500
Entertainment - $1,800
Clothes - $1,500
Charity - $500

Now, you put down gym membership.  That made me think of golfing - something I&#039;d love to do when I retire since I only get out 1 or 2 times per year now.

I&#039;d say there are some big differences between our two lists - food (both groceries and eating out) and miscellaneous spending.  (The new car fund was discussed earlier in the follow up comments.  If we retire when I&#039;d like, we would be halfway through the life of our car at that point giving us another 5 years to save up for the next one.)

I hope I&#039;m being realistic with my numbers - it will be easier once the kids have grown up and we can see what it is like with just the two of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gone through this a few times, and here is what I came up with for our situation in retirement.  (Of course, I went through what we no longer would have to direct money to just like you did &#8211; the remainder is to follow.)</p>
<p>In 2008 dollars on an annual basis&#8230;.</p>
<p>Property Tax &#8211; $4,500 (what we currently pay &#8211; perhaps we will move to a smaller home or in a less expensive community)</p>
<p>Auto (down to 1 vehicle):<br />
            Gas &#8211; $2,400<br />
            Insurance &#8211; $1,200<br />
            Maintenance &#8211; $1,200<br />
            New car fund &#8211; $6,000</p>
<p>Home<br />
           Insurance &#8211; $500<br />
           Upkeep/Big Fix Fund &#8211; $1,800</p>
<p>Utilities</p>
<p>           Internet / Cable &#8211; $1,800<br />
           Cell phone        &#8211; $600 (never owned my cell -always got it through work!)<br />
           Water Tank      &#8211; $250<br />
           Gas/Water/Elec &#8211; $2,800</p>
<p>Vacation &#8211; $6,000<br />
Gifts &#8211; $2,000<br />
Food &#8211; $3,500<br />
Entertainment &#8211; $1,800<br />
Clothes &#8211; $1,500<br />
Charity &#8211; $500</p>
<p>Now, you put down gym membership.  That made me think of golfing &#8211; something I&#8217;d love to do when I retire since I only get out 1 or 2 times per year now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say there are some big differences between our two lists &#8211; food (both groceries and eating out) and miscellaneous spending.  (The new car fund was discussed earlier in the follow up comments.  If we retire when I&#8217;d like, we would be halfway through the life of our car at that point giving us another 5 years to save up for the next one.)</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m being realistic with my numbers &#8211; it will be easier once the kids have grown up and we can see what it is like with just the two of us.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Reader Mail: Babe in the Woods II &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-22240</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader Mail: Babe in the Woods II &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-22240</guid>
		<description>[...] will require and work backwards from there.&#160; If you haven&#039;t already, check out my &quot;early retirement series&quot;.&#160; I did a number of calculations there that help determine the numbers required to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="border: solid #DDD; padding: 0.5em;">
<p>[...] will require and work backwards from there.&nbsp; If you haven&#39;t already, check out my &quot;early retirement series&quot;.&nbsp; I did a number of calculations there that help determine the numbers required to [...]</p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Book Review: The Lazy Investor &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm/comment-page-1#comment-22002</link>
		<dc:creator>Book Review: The Lazy Investor &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/retiring-early-part-1-the-expenses.htm#comment-22002</guid>
		<description>[...] That is, when you retire, you&#039;ll have fewer expenses to contend with.&#160; My early retirement series is based on this conclusion [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="border: solid #DDD; padding: 0.5em;">
<p>[...] That is, when you retire, you&#39;ll have fewer expenses to contend with.&nbsp; My early retirement series is based on this conclusion [...]</p>
</div>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

