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		<title>By: falconaire@sympatico.ca: Sandor</title>
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		<dc:creator>falconaire@sympatico.ca: Sandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travis,

I have quite a bit of experience with it, because I arranged it, and built it into the SM to many of my clients.
I don&#039;t know what particular questions do you have, but if you send them to me, I shall send you the answers.
My personal opinion is that it is a marvelous device and I haven&#039;t had the slightest of complaints yet from my clients.
I believe, I am the only one here using it in a professional capacity, so probably I have the most experience with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis,</p>
<p>I have quite a bit of experience with it, because I arranged it, and built it into the SM to many of my clients.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what particular questions do you have, but if you send them to me, I shall send you the answers.<br />
My personal opinion is that it is a marvelous device and I haven&#8217;t had the slightest of complaints yet from my clients.<br />
I believe, I am the only one here using it in a professional capacity, so probably I have the most experience with it.</p>
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		<title>By: travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have been talked to about manulife one , and am wondering about the downsides of it. I like the idea and would as with al canadians love to pay all my debts sooner, would like if any have experiences that could help reason this out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have been talked to about manulife one , and am wondering about the downsides of it. I like the idea and would as with al canadians love to pay all my debts sooner, would like if any have experiences that could help reason this out?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ft:

This morning I posted again (this time following David&#039;s advise, saved the text separately,) but although it did appear immediately on the list, just like the previous one, by now at 4:30 PM it has disappeared. This is very strange. Don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ft:</p>
<p>This morning I posted again (this time following David&#8217;s advise, saved the text separately,) but although it did appear immediately on the list, just like the previous one, by now at 4:30 PM it has disappeared. This is very strange. Don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandor &amp; David:

I didn&#039;t find the comment in the SPAM folder, I&#039;ll have to look into the comment problem.

Thanks for the heads up.

FT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandor &#038; David:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t find the comment in the SPAM folder, I&#8217;ll have to look into the comment problem.</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads up.</p>
<p>FT</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandor,
    You might wish to type your longer replies in Notepad, save a copy to your computer, then cut &amp; paste into a blog window. It can save a whole lot of grief.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandor,<br />
    You might wish to type your longer replies in Notepad, save a copy to your computer, then cut &amp; paste into a blog window. It can save a whole lot of grief.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Sandor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT:

I did answer your last posting (#10) but it got lost.
Can you check what happened to it?
It only interests me because I had several quotes from PriceWaterhouse and CRA in it and I would hate to start the research for it again.

Sandor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT:</p>
<p>I did answer your last posting (#10) but it got lost.<br />
Can you check what happened to it?<br />
It only interests me because I had several quotes from PriceWaterhouse and CRA in it and I would hate to start the research for it again.</p>
<p>Sandor</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Sandor&lt;/b&gt;,  although I agree that segregated funds will eliminate the risk with the guarantee of capital, it also &lt;b&gt;limits the potential gain with the high fees&lt;/b&gt;.

I didn&#039;t know that you could donate a life insurance policy to a charity and include the premiums as a tax deduction?  I guess that would mean that you would need a &quot;whole life&quot; policy?

FT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sandor</b>,  although I agree that segregated funds will eliminate the risk with the guarantee of capital, it also <b>limits the potential gain with the high fees</b>.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that you could donate a life insurance policy to a charity and include the premiums as a tax deduction?  I guess that would mean that you would need a &#8220;whole life&#8221; policy?</p>
<p>FT</p>
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		<title>By: Sandor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello to all here!

I am a licensed financial advisor in Toronto and read with interest as well as admiration the postings.
There are some interesting details missing from Pastor Brad&#039;s description; the interest rate of the mortgage for instance. Without it, it is impossible to decide what is better, a line of credit, or a rainy day fund.
But in a general way I must say that the ING Direct is not a good solution in comprison to the Manulife One. The former is not going to provide substantial return on the money and all that it earns is fully taxable, while the line of credit at Manulife (or anywhere else) attracts interest charges only if he uses the money.
As to leveraging the equity in his house, I would encourage that, provided the proceeds are not risked in the stock market. Instead I would recommend tax-efficient investments (dividends, or equity,) in segregated funds, where the capital is guarantied, therefore, losses are minimized.
Finally about the charitable donation. It is indeed real charity only if it involves some sacrifice. That makes it nobler. However, since we are considering here not only the sacrifice, but also the financial wellbeing of the Pastor, we must consider the whole in the form of a long term process. If he would be contracting a life insurance policy to the benefit of his charity then much less money would buy much more benefit to the charity, (while also attracting some tax benefit,) and so both the Pastor as well as the charity would be better off.
Example: 10% of his income, $420 each month is given to charity. If he would buy a life insurance and donate that, then a monthly $150 would probably buy $400,000 life coverage, that would be considered a generous contribution by any charity. (this is more than  10 times his yearly income!) and yet, he could still get a tax refund for it. Be generous, without being foolish.

Sandor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello to all here!</p>
<p>I am a licensed financial advisor in Toronto and read with interest as well as admiration the postings.<br />
There are some interesting details missing from Pastor Brad&#8217;s description; the interest rate of the mortgage for instance. Without it, it is impossible to decide what is better, a line of credit, or a rainy day fund.<br />
But in a general way I must say that the ING Direct is not a good solution in comprison to the Manulife One. The former is not going to provide substantial return on the money and all that it earns is fully taxable, while the line of credit at Manulife (or anywhere else) attracts interest charges only if he uses the money.<br />
As to leveraging the equity in his house, I would encourage that, provided the proceeds are not risked in the stock market. Instead I would recommend tax-efficient investments (dividends, or equity,) in segregated funds, where the capital is guarantied, therefore, losses are minimized.<br />
Finally about the charitable donation. It is indeed real charity only if it involves some sacrifice. That makes it nobler. However, since we are considering here not only the sacrifice, but also the financial wellbeing of the Pastor, we must consider the whole in the form of a long term process. If he would be contracting a life insurance policy to the benefit of his charity then much less money would buy much more benefit to the charity, (while also attracting some tax benefit,) and so both the Pastor as well as the charity would be better off.<br />
Example: 10% of his income, $420 each month is given to charity. If he would buy a life insurance and donate that, then a monthly $150 would probably buy $400,000 life coverage, that would be considered a generous contribution by any charity. (this is more than  10 times his yearly income!) and yet, he could still get a tax refund for it. Be generous, without being foolish.</p>
<p>Sandor</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Dream</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Dream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a day I read this post at 6:45 this morning and I&#039;m finally writing a comment at 9pm.  *sigh*

Anyways here&#039;s my ideas.  

Step 1) Open a high interest savings account and start putting your savings in there for now (eg: ING Direct)

Step 2) Start your new part time job on reading personal finance books.  When your done reading at least 10 books you can start to make up your own mind on what works for you.  That should give you enough different points of view to make a decent decision.  

My personal thoughts on your situation would be if your not too fond of Calgary cash out your house and move over to Saskatchewan.  $200K can buy you a nice house and that would mortgage free that would allow you to really ring up some savings.  Otherwise, the RRSP&#039;s are most likely not that useful to you, so I would either pay down the mortgage or start a taxable investment account after you got a bit of savings built up.

I hope that helps and good luck.

CD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a day I read this post at 6:45 this morning and I&#8217;m finally writing a comment at 9pm.  *sigh*</p>
<p>Anyways here&#8217;s my ideas.  </p>
<p>Step 1) Open a high interest savings account and start putting your savings in there for now (eg: ING Direct)</p>
<p>Step 2) Start your new part time job on reading personal finance books.  When your done reading at least 10 books you can start to make up your own mind on what works for you.  That should give you enough different points of view to make a decent decision.  </p>
<p>My personal thoughts on your situation would be if your not too fond of Calgary cash out your house and move over to Saskatchewan.  $200K can buy you a nice house and that would mortgage free that would allow you to really ring up some savings.  Otherwise, the RRSP&#8217;s are most likely not that useful to you, so I would either pay down the mortgage or start a taxable investment account after you got a bit of savings built up.</p>
<p>I hope that helps and good luck.</p>
<p>CD</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I don&#039;t think rainy day funds are the best choice. Why stash a large sum of money somewhere and then have it just sitting there...just in case. What if &#039;just in case&#039; never happens. Meanwhile you could have taken that money and applied it to your mortgage and saved youself thousands in interest. If &#039;just in case&#039; comes along then you can tap into your house which now has built up equity due to paying off extra on it. Just my opinion.

Pastor Brad you should try writing into MoneySense magazine. They run a story in every edition where a person writes in asking for financial advice and then have 2-3 professionals give you advice on what would be some good options to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I don&#8217;t think rainy day funds are the best choice. Why stash a large sum of money somewhere and then have it just sitting there&#8230;just in case. What if &#8216;just in case&#8217; never happens. Meanwhile you could have taken that money and applied it to your mortgage and saved youself thousands in interest. If &#8216;just in case&#8217; comes along then you can tap into your house which now has built up equity due to paying off extra on it. Just my opinion.</p>
<p>Pastor Brad you should try writing into MoneySense magazine. They run a story in every edition where a person writes in asking for financial advice and then have 2-3 professionals give you advice on what would be some good options to take.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Healthy Body: I think that the usual recommendation is to have 3 months EXPENSES in an emergency fund. One&#039;s need for that would vary a lot on job security and benefits. Brad&#039;s expenses are less than $3180 / mo ($4200 less $750 -  $850 monthly savings and tithe), so it should take a bit less than a year to accumulate. If he feels secure enough, he could use his Credit Line for that purpose. If you have a good relationship with your banker, they will offer you many options shold you find yourself in a truly unexpected financial state, and need some relief from your mortgage payment.

Brad: I would not use the rainy day fund for vacations -- budget for them. IN the short term, I&#039;d choose to put the money you can against the mortgage. The $850 per month will reduce your mortgage by well over the $10,000 you contribute, as your interest costs are reduced. Have a look at the calculators at www.dinkytown.net to see how these payments could affect your worth. Given your current financial practices, you should be able to readily manage your retirement savings in a manner that meet your future needs.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthy Body: I think that the usual recommendation is to have 3 months EXPENSES in an emergency fund. One&#8217;s need for that would vary a lot on job security and benefits. Brad&#8217;s expenses are less than $3180 / mo ($4200 less $750 &#8211;  $850 monthly savings and tithe), so it should take a bit less than a year to accumulate. If he feels secure enough, he could use his Credit Line for that purpose. If you have a good relationship with your banker, they will offer you many options shold you find yourself in a truly unexpected financial state, and need some relief from your mortgage payment.</p>
<p>Brad: I would not use the rainy day fund for vacations &#8212; budget for them. IN the short term, I&#8217;d choose to put the money you can against the mortgage. The $850 per month will reduce your mortgage by well over the $10,000 you contribute, as your interest costs are reduced. Have a look at the calculators at <a href="http://www.dinkytown.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.dinkytown.net</a> to see how these payments could affect your worth. Given your current financial practices, you should be able to readily manage your retirement savings in a manner that meet your future needs.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Big Cajun Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Cajun Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using a line of credit as a &quot;rainy day&quot; fund is a little worrisome for me. Paying down the mortgage is foremost, and putting money into an RRSP for now, makes little sense (IMHO). I think you gave good FREE advice and made the correct statement, that this is only YOUR opinion and that it might be prudent to get PROFESIONAL (sp?) advice.  --C8j</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using a line of credit as a &#8220;rainy day&#8221; fund is a little worrisome for me. Paying down the mortgage is foremost, and putting money into an RRSP for now, makes little sense (IMHO). I think you gave good FREE advice and made the correct statement, that this is only YOUR opinion and that it might be prudent to get PROFESIONAL (sp?) advice.  &#8211;C8j</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:  Good suggestion, paying down his mortgage will give him a guaranteed return on his money.

David:  I forgot to mention that Brad is &lt;b&gt;30&lt;/b&gt; years old.

Health Body:  Good call, I think Brad mentioned to me that he has a line of credit that he could use as a rainy day fund.  Some people are comfortable with having a LOC as backup, others may need more security in cash savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:  Good suggestion, paying down his mortgage will give him a guaranteed return on his money.</p>
<p>David:  I forgot to mention that Brad is <b>30</b> years old.</p>
<p>Health Body:  Good call, I think Brad mentioned to me that he has a line of credit that he could use as a rainy day fund.  Some people are comfortable with having a LOC as backup, others may need more security in cash savings.</p>
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		<title>By: Healthy Body</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healthy Body</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor Brad mentioned not having any &quot;rainy day fund&quot;, so I would suggest he works on that first. Since he is saving $500-$600 every month, it shouldn’t be too hard (to at least have some). The recommended amount is 3 months wages, and that would take about 2 years to build at their rate of saving.

If I were him, I would build up at least 1 month&#039;s wage in that fund, and then split the savings between the rainy fund and paying off the mortgage.

I am a Christian too, and a pastor&#039;s daughter, and we too pay 10% (actually, some years is a lot more). God is good, and blesses those who give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Brad mentioned not having any &#8220;rainy day fund&#8221;, so I would suggest he works on that first. Since he is saving $500-$600 every month, it shouldn’t be too hard (to at least have some). The recommended amount is 3 months wages, and that would take about 2 years to build at their rate of saving.</p>
<p>If I were him, I would build up at least 1 month&#8217;s wage in that fund, and then split the savings between the rainy fund and paying off the mortgage.</p>
<p>I am a Christian too, and a pastor&#8217;s daughter, and we too pay 10% (actually, some years is a lot more). God is good, and blesses those who give.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two pieces of information are missing for me to add sensible comment: Pastor Brad&#039;s age, and whether he will recieve a pension from his employer. However, paying down his mortgage to reduce that liability is wise. Given his profession, and possibly his future calling, he may have an opportunity to cash out of the Calgary market, and move to another place with much lower housing costs.

He should also have a chat with a financial planner to determine if disposition of allowances, especially if they are non-taxable, should be managed in a different fashion.

And, as described above, take some time to become more knowledgable about investment options, including mortgage strategies.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two pieces of information are missing for me to add sensible comment: Pastor Brad&#8217;s age, and whether he will recieve a pension from his employer. However, paying down his mortgage to reduce that liability is wise. Given his profession, and possibly his future calling, he may have an opportunity to cash out of the Calgary market, and move to another place with much lower housing costs.</p>
<p>He should also have a chat with a financial planner to determine if disposition of allowances, especially if they are non-taxable, should be managed in a different fashion.</p>
<p>And, as described above, take some time to become more knowledgable about investment options, including mortgage strategies.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT I don&#039;t think you gave bad advice.  My suggestion though is to concentrate on the mortgage for now - it&#039;s huge for Brad&#039;s income and if interest rates go up or there is a loss of job then it would be a big risk.
Concentrate on the mortgage until it gets down to a more manageable amount say between 100k and 150k?  Maybe at that time he can start thinking more long term and getting into dividend stocks/rrsp/non rrsp or whatever.  I just don&#039;t think that stuff is as important as the mortgage right now.

Also as your biggest expense make sure you use a mortgage broker and get the best rate possible.  And stick to a normal mortgage.  M1 is a money-making gimmick.

Kudos on have a good budget - you sound like a great saver which is 90% of the battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT I don&#8217;t think you gave bad advice.  My suggestion though is to concentrate on the mortgage for now &#8211; it&#8217;s huge for Brad&#8217;s income and if interest rates go up or there is a loss of job then it would be a big risk.<br />
Concentrate on the mortgage until it gets down to a more manageable amount say between 100k and 150k?  Maybe at that time he can start thinking more long term and getting into dividend stocks/rrsp/non rrsp or whatever.  I just don&#8217;t think that stuff is as important as the mortgage right now.</p>
<p>Also as your biggest expense make sure you use a mortgage broker and get the best rate possible.  And stick to a normal mortgage.  M1 is a money-making gimmick.</p>
<p>Kudos on have a good budget &#8211; you sound like a great saver which is 90% of the battle.</p>
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