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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111196</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, the information is out.  Looks like $120/year annual fee with the AMEX.  I&#039;m waving Goodbye to the SPG program I guess.  It was nice to have a free way to slowly gather SPG points, but I guess it was too good.  Off to the Smart Cash card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, the information is out.  Looks like $120/year annual fee with the AMEX.  I&#8217;m waving Goodbye to the SPG program I guess.  It was nice to have a free way to slowly gather SPG points, but I guess it was too good.  Off to the Smart Cash card.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-108633</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, you are right the conversion goes the other way around.  And points.com is a horrible option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, you are right the conversion goes the other way around.  And points.com is a horrible option.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-108632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you can.  Aeroplan miles can be converted into Starpoints by logging into Aeroplan, clicking on Earn Miles &#124; Conversion Programs &#124; Travel &#124; Starwood.

You can also convert Reward Miles into Starpoints.  No shocker that Reward Miles is the program used by AMEX.  Aaargh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you can.  Aeroplan miles can be converted into Starpoints by logging into Aeroplan, clicking on Earn Miles | Conversion Programs | Travel | Starwood.</p>
<p>You can also convert Reward Miles into Starpoints.  No shocker that Reward Miles is the program used by AMEX.  Aaargh.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-108630</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray: Agree - trying to use Amex as the main credit card is a pain in the butt. You raise an interesting point about conversions. I see that it&#039;s possible to convert Starpoints into Aeroplan, but not the other way around. Is it possible to convert ANYTHING into Starpoints? SPG seems to have the best hotel deals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray: Agree &#8211; trying to use Amex as the main credit card is a pain in the butt. You raise an interesting point about conversions. I see that it&#8217;s possible to convert Starpoints into Aeroplan, but not the other way around. Is it possible to convert ANYTHING into Starpoints? SPG seems to have the best hotel deals.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-108625</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An AMEX piece of crap?  Has anyone done the analysis on how many of the typical Canadian vendors that we bill pay, etc, can not be done on an AMEX?  That would be a great post - a post showing that a Canadian cannot survive with *just* an AMEX because it is not accepted at X number of places.  So now we have to do some hybrid thing?  This AMEX for Front-of-the-line and whatever place will accept it and then the next best cash-back Visa/Mastercard for everything else.  Given that several other programs convert to starpoints now at 1:1 like Aeroplan Miles, do we have some options there for our 2nd card?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An AMEX piece of crap?  Has anyone done the analysis on how many of the typical Canadian vendors that we bill pay, etc, can not be done on an AMEX?  That would be a great post &#8211; a post showing that a Canadian cannot survive with *just* an AMEX because it is not accepted at X number of places.  So now we have to do some hybrid thing?  This AMEX for Front-of-the-line and whatever place will accept it and then the next best cash-back Visa/Mastercard for everything else.  Given that several other programs convert to starpoints now at 1:1 like Aeroplan Miles, do we have some options there for our 2nd card?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel McLaren</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-108622</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got the email as well and it looks like I&#039;ll be shopping for a new card. Fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got the email as well and it looks like I&#8217;ll be shopping for a new card. Fail.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-108617</link>
		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I received the email as well.  Perhaps I will post about it so that everyone will have the heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I received the email as well.  Perhaps I will post about it so that everyone will have the heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-108616</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPG has announced a few details on the new Amex card scheduled to be released in Q1.

http://www.spgpromos.com/canada_creditcard/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPG has announced a few details on the new Amex card scheduled to be released in Q1.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spgpromos.com/canada_creditcard/" rel="nofollow">http://www.spgpromos.com/canada_creditcard/</a></p>
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		<title>By: coachdave</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-107402</link>
		<dc:creator>coachdave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous...don&#039;t know who to blame more MBNA or Starwood.

This was a great No Fee card...I wouldn&#039;t be with MBNA otherwise...their credit card information was compromised last year as well when a new card was issued to me.  Is this a regular occurrence at MBNA?

The new Card needs to be NO FEE.  For the love of God, do not make it an Amex...other than Costco who in the hell accepts American Express??

If the new Starwood Credit card is Amex or has a hefty fee, I&#039;m considering the Marriot Rewards Visa.  I haven&#039;t run the numbers yet, but I have enjoyed my Marriot stays and the rewards are easy to redeem and tie in with the places we visit.  Thanks for this blog - I&#039;ll keep watching for updates... I hope those idiots at MBNA and SPG read these posts.  I&#039;m sure the Hyatt Gold and Marriott folks are happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous&#8230;don&#8217;t know who to blame more MBNA or Starwood.</p>
<p>This was a great No Fee card&#8230;I wouldn&#8217;t be with MBNA otherwise&#8230;their credit card information was compromised last year as well when a new card was issued to me.  Is this a regular occurrence at MBNA?</p>
<p>The new Card needs to be NO FEE.  For the love of God, do not make it an Amex&#8230;other than Costco who in the hell accepts American Express??</p>
<p>If the new Starwood Credit card is Amex or has a hefty fee, I&#8217;m considering the Marriot Rewards Visa.  I haven&#8217;t run the numbers yet, but I have enjoyed my Marriot stays and the rewards are easy to redeem and tie in with the places we visit.  Thanks for this blog &#8211; I&#8217;ll keep watching for updates&#8230; I hope those idiots at MBNA and SPG read these posts.  I&#8217;m sure the Hyatt Gold and Marriott folks are happy.</p>
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		<title>By: CreditCard Junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-107073</link>
		<dc:creator>CreditCard Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will probably switch to the Shopper Optimum MasterCard it is offered by MBNA and should be easy to switch over plus It is anywhere between 3-6% cash bach depending on shopping habits at and outside of Shoppers Drug Mart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will probably switch to the Shopper Optimum MasterCard it is offered by MBNA and should be easy to switch over plus It is anywhere between 3-6% cash bach depending on shopping habits at and outside of Shoppers Drug Mart</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-106950</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few more months to wait...

http://www.spgpromos.com/canada_creditcard/index.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few more months to wait&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spgpromos.com/canada_creditcard/index.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.spgpromos.com/canada_creditcard/index.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Medved</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-106280</link>
		<dc:creator>Medved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To sneaky88,
Please, give us some hints... How you submit an app w/o US Social Security Number or ZIP code/State?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To sneaky88,<br />
Please, give us some hints&#8230; How you submit an app w/o US Social Security Number or ZIP code/State?</p>
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		<title>By: sneaky88</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-105508</link>
		<dc:creator>sneaky88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are Canadians with SPG Amex.   You just have to be persistent !
It can be done.... heh heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are Canadians with SPG Amex.   You just have to be persistent !<br />
It can be done&#8230;. heh heh.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-104822</link>
		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that the SPG Amex is available to U.S residents only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that the SPG Amex is available to U.S residents only.</p>
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		<title>By: leeloo76</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-104667</link>
		<dc:creator>leeloo76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the SPG reward card offered by Amex? https://www143.americanexpress.com/apisites/LandingAction.do?partnerId=95&amp;channel=1000&amp;landingCode=25

Is it a suitable replacement to the SPG Mastercard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the SPG reward card offered by Amex? <a href="https://www143.americanexpress.com/apisites/LandingAction.do?partnerId=95&amp;channel=1000&amp;landingCode=25" rel="nofollow">https://www143.americanexpress.com/apisites/LandingAction.do?partnerId=95&amp;channel=1000&amp;landingCode=25</a></p>
<p>Is it a suitable replacement to the SPG Mastercard?</p>
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		<title>By: used tires</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-104479</link>
		<dc:creator>used tires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a big fan of credit cards, I have one just in case of extreme emergencies, so I don&#039;t personally have a favorite one, but this credit card sounded like a great one, maybe that is why they got discontinued it? Because it was so good that they were losing money from it, compared to the others? hehe

Till then,

Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a big fan of credit cards, I have one just in case of extreme emergencies, so I don&#8217;t personally have a favorite one, but this credit card sounded like a great one, maybe that is why they got discontinued it? Because it was so good that they were losing money from it, compared to the others? hehe</p>
<p>Till then,</p>
<p>Jean</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-104156</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blah, I just got this card 2 weeks ago. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah, I just got this card 2 weeks ago. :(</p>
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		<title>By: London Rental Man</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-104061</link>
		<dc:creator>London Rental Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favourite read was &quot;The Trouble with Rewards Points&quot; 
Thank you for recommending them, I find this kind of link list with short summaries very usefull. thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favourite read was &#8220;The Trouble with Rewards Points&#8221;<br />
Thank you for recommending them, I find this kind of link list with short summaries very usefull. thx</p>
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		<title>By: canabiz</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/mbna-spg-credit-card-discontinued.htm/comment-page-1#comment-103901</link>
		<dc:creator>canabiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got this card last year but locked it up soon in a safe soon after because I got the 0% balance transfer promo put on it.

I haven&#039;t used the points for anything, not that there are many points on it to begin with but it seems like this is another one of those *all good things must come to an end* stories.

I am sure something else comparable will come along. I am using a low-limit RBC Rewards VISA card that I have got for about 10 years but i may look at the MBNA SmartCash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got this card last year but locked it up soon in a safe soon after because I got the 0% balance transfer promo put on it.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t used the points for anything, not that there are many points on it to begin with but it seems like this is another one of those *all good things must come to an end* stories.</p>
<p>I am sure something else comparable will come along. I am using a low-limit RBC Rewards VISA card that I have got for about 10 years but i may look at the MBNA SmartCash.</p>
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		<title>By: 35mm Slide Conversions</title>
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		<dc:creator>35mm Slide Conversions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, merchants typically pay between 1.5% and 3% of EVERY transaction on your credit card, along with you paying the interest &amp; annual fee. Believe me, they aren&#039;t hurting. Google gave me a figure for australia (I assume they would be similar to canada) of $232,380,000,000 in credit card spending per year, so their take would be a round 3.5 billion, or $160 for every person in the country.

Compare that with Canada (higher population) and you get about 5 billion in fees alone... obviously infrastructure &amp; other costs are there, but thats a huge chunk of change for &quot;processing&quot; our payments, and THEN they add our annual fees &amp; interest for people carrying balances.

I highly, highly doubt they are hurting. They can afford a LOT better (although AMEX isn&#039;t accepted in many places due to the higher transaction costs (they are up near 3% when I checked), although they give their users better rewards... 

Anyway I&#039;m certainly disappointed that this card is gone, I use this as a primary and my GM visa (3% earning towards GM cars) as a backup (first card, don&#039;t want to cancel). 

I&#039;m about 20k in spending away from getting all the nights &amp; flights + extra points I need for a trip to Europe with flights &amp;  hotels. Hopefully I hit that before Feb, as owning my own new business proves to be a pain in the ass getting credit cards. 

I&#039;ll probably try to get the new card for my wife &amp; I, keep the MBNA card long enough to get the bonuses and then switch it out. I really want to figure out how to get an American Amex though!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, merchants typically pay between 1.5% and 3% of EVERY transaction on your credit card, along with you paying the interest &amp; annual fee. Believe me, they aren&#8217;t hurting. Google gave me a figure for australia (I assume they would be similar to canada) of $232,380,000,000 in credit card spending per year, so their take would be a round 3.5 billion, or $160 for every person in the country.</p>
<p>Compare that with Canada (higher population) and you get about 5 billion in fees alone&#8230; obviously infrastructure &amp; other costs are there, but thats a huge chunk of change for &#8220;processing&#8221; our payments, and THEN they add our annual fees &amp; interest for people carrying balances.</p>
<p>I highly, highly doubt they are hurting. They can afford a LOT better (although AMEX isn&#8217;t accepted in many places due to the higher transaction costs (they are up near 3% when I checked), although they give their users better rewards&#8230; </p>
<p>Anyway I&#8217;m certainly disappointed that this card is gone, I use this as a primary and my GM visa (3% earning towards GM cars) as a backup (first card, don&#8217;t want to cancel). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m about 20k in spending away from getting all the nights &amp; flights + extra points I need for a trip to Europe with flights &amp;  hotels. Hopefully I hit that before Feb, as owning my own new business proves to be a pain in the ass getting credit cards. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably try to get the new card for my wife &amp; I, keep the MBNA card long enough to get the bonuses and then switch it out. I really want to figure out how to get an American Amex though!!!</p>
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