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	<title>Comments on: ING Direct TFSA &#8211; $25 Referral/Orange Key Bonus Code</title>
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		<title>By: Canadian Penny Stocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Penny Stocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mine with TD Canada Trust. I think the best way to make money is by picking up a mutual fund in an industry that you think will perform. I put my $5000 in a high yield mutual fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mine with TD Canada Trust. I think the best way to make money is by picking up a mutual fund in an industry that you think will perform. I put my $5000 in a high yield mutual fund.</p>
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		<title>By: Hussain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 20:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ING DIRECT will likely lose a lot of it&#039;s deposit if it doesn&#039;t increase it&#039;s TFSA rate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ING DIRECT will likely lose a lot of it&#8217;s deposit if it doesn&#8217;t increase it&#8217;s TFSA rate</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AOH, any gains within the account do not count towards contributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AOH, any gains within the account do not count towards contributions.</p>
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		<title>By: AOH</title>
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		<dc:creator>AOH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need some clarification..  (thanks in advance for any help!)  will any capital gain earned in the TFSA account be counted towards the contribution room?

E.g.  if i deposit $4000 in a TFSA a/c and used that to purchase a stock that I sell for $5000.   After selling the stock, I have $5000 cash in my TFSA, do I still have $1000 contribution room left for the same year or not?

THanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need some clarification..  (thanks in advance for any help!)  will any capital gain earned in the TFSA account be counted towards the contribution room?</p>
<p>E.g.  if i deposit $4000 in a TFSA a/c and used that to purchase a stock that I sell for $5000.   After selling the stock, I have $5000 cash in my TFSA, do I still have $1000 contribution room left for the same year or not?</p>
<p>THanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Toto and Yoyo Ma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toto and Yoyo Ma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All in for $5000 a year savings ... is the return higher than a 1 year GIC and free of tax</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All in for $5000 a year savings &#8230; is the return higher than a 1 year GIC and free of tax</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know if it is possible to open up multiple sub accounts (like ING Direct&#039;s other savings vehicles) in the TFSA account they offer?

I just opened up an account today, and was wondering if this feature is available for the TFSA, so any comments on this would be appreciated muchly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know if it is possible to open up multiple sub accounts (like ING Direct&#8217;s other savings vehicles) in the TFSA account they offer?</p>
<p>I just opened up an account today, and was wondering if this feature is available for the TFSA, so any comments on this would be appreciated muchly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally government is doing something to help with taxes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally government is doing something to help with taxes</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Rempel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Rempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

We we wil be using TFSA&#039;s as the first retirement savings plan, since it is superior to RRSP&#039;s for many people, especially anyone saving a comfortable nest egg. Using it for an emergency fund is a wasted opportunity.

There are 2 articles on this blog about TFSA&#039;s vs. RRSP&#039;s and the affect of clawbacks for seniors on the benefits of TFSA&#039;s.

TFSA&#039;s look like they will be basically exactly like RRSP&#039;s, except for the tax consequences for contributions and withdrawals. There were a few questions here about mechanics of the TFSA, which should be just like a similar RRSP.



Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>We we wil be using TFSA&#8217;s as the first retirement savings plan, since it is superior to RRSP&#8217;s for many people, especially anyone saving a comfortable nest egg. Using it for an emergency fund is a wasted opportunity.</p>
<p>There are 2 articles on this blog about TFSA&#8217;s vs. RRSP&#8217;s and the affect of clawbacks for seniors on the benefits of TFSA&#8217;s.</p>
<p>TFSA&#8217;s look like they will be basically exactly like RRSP&#8217;s, except for the tax consequences for contributions and withdrawals. There were a few questions here about mechanics of the TFSA, which should be just like a similar RRSP.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: MultifolDream$</title>
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		<dc:creator>MultifolDream$</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a customer of ING Direct I quickly switched last weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a customer of ING Direct I quickly switched last weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if they can be transferred in kind, you will most certainly have to pay taxes on the paper gains the moment it goes into this tax free account.

Otherwise people would invest outside the account and only transfer the profitable investments to the account, taking the tax loss on the unprofitable ones.

So yes, transferring into the account HAS to cause gains to be taxable as of that date. Otherwise it&#039;s a giant tax loophole, and governments in 2008 don&#039;t create such easy accidental loopholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if they can be transferred in kind, you will most certainly have to pay taxes on the paper gains the moment it goes into this tax free account.</p>
<p>Otherwise people would invest outside the account and only transfer the profitable investments to the account, taking the tax loss on the unprofitable ones.</p>
<p>So yes, transferring into the account HAS to cause gains to be taxable as of that date. Otherwise it&#8217;s a giant tax loophole, and governments in 2008 don&#8217;t create such easy accidental loopholes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sampson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume transfers from existing investments accounts are permitted, but does anyone know if they will be transferred in kind without the need to sell and hence pay capital gains on the way into the account?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume transfers from existing investments accounts are permitted, but does anyone know if they will be transferred in kind without the need to sell and hence pay capital gains on the way into the account?</p>
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		<title>By: Rajesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Marvin, it appears that if you max out your contribution room in a year, and withdraw any amount, the room provided by the withdrawal will not be available until next year.

From https://www.tdcanadatrust.com/invest/tax_free.jsp:
Once I’ve withdrawn my money, is that contribution room lost? 

A: No, you never lose your contribution room – in fact, you can recontribute amounts you have withdrawn. You have to wait until the next year to recontribute, but you can carry forward the recontribution room indefinitely. 

For example, say you contribute $5,000 to your TFSA in January 2009 and another $5,000 in January 2010. Then, in the summer of 2010, you withdraw $3,000 to pay for some repairs to your home. You can’t recontribute that $3,000 in 2010, but in 2011 it will be added to your contribution room again, meaning you could contribute up to $8,000 in 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Marvin, it appears that if you max out your contribution room in a year, and withdraw any amount, the room provided by the withdrawal will not be available until next year.</p>
<p>From <a href="https://www.tdcanadatrust.com/invest/tax_free.jsp" rel="nofollow">https://www.tdcanadatrust.com/invest/tax_free.jsp</a>:<br />
Once I’ve withdrawn my money, is that contribution room lost? </p>
<p>A: No, you never lose your contribution room – in fact, you can recontribute amounts you have withdrawn. You have to wait until the next year to recontribute, but you can carry forward the recontribution room indefinitely. </p>
<p>For example, say you contribute $5,000 to your TFSA in January 2009 and another $5,000 in January 2010. Then, in the summer of 2010, you withdraw $3,000 to pay for some repairs to your home. You can’t recontribute that $3,000 in 2010, but in 2011 it will be added to your contribution room again, meaning you could contribute up to $8,000 in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have a somewhat off-topic question but I hope some expert here can answer me.

Let&#039;s say, I deposit 5k into my TFSA at the beginning of the year. Luckly, I get 20% return in 2 months. Then I withdraw all the money , 6k here, from the account.

Here is my question. What is the future contribution room for my TFSA in the rest of the time of the year? 0k, 5k, or 6k?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have a somewhat off-topic question but I hope some expert here can answer me.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say, I deposit 5k into my TFSA at the beginning of the year. Luckly, I get 20% return in 2 months. Then I withdraw all the money , 6k here, from the account.</p>
<p>Here is my question. What is the future contribution room for my TFSA in the rest of the time of the year? 0k, 5k, or 6k?</p>
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		<title>By: np</title>
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		<dc:creator>np</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is somewhat off-topic but I am looking at opening a TFSA in January to park my emergency fund, which currently sits in a high interest savings account. However I do my banking and investing with TD and it would be nice if I could consolidate all my money there. Since their choice of savings account is rather poor I was wondering if it was worth it to put my emergency money in a money market fund instead (e.g. TDB164).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is somewhat off-topic but I am looking at opening a TFSA in January to park my emergency fund, which currently sits in a high interest savings account. However I do my banking and investing with TD and it would be nice if I could consolidate all my money there. Since their choice of savings account is rather poor I was wondering if it was worth it to put my emergency money in a money market fund instead (e.g. TDB164).</p>
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		<title>By: Sport11can</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sport11can</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We actually have a ING High interest savings account in my wifes name (stay at home mom) for savings for our child.  This past weekend we opened a TFSA at ING and moved all of the money over into it to catch the higher interest.  At least now the interest won&#039;t be taxable and thus take away from my dependent claim!

I actually can&#039;t believe it has taken the banks this long to be the &quot;first&quot; out of the gate.  Sometimes the tortoise does win the race!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We actually have a ING High interest savings account in my wifes name (stay at home mom) for savings for our child.  This past weekend we opened a TFSA at ING and moved all of the money over into it to catch the higher interest.  At least now the interest won&#8217;t be taxable and thus take away from my dependent claim!</p>
<p>I actually can&#8217;t believe it has taken the banks this long to be the &#8220;first&#8221; out of the gate.  Sometimes the tortoise does win the race!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Does anyone think that a person could hold the ING TFSA until Jan 2 and then start one with an investment broker for stocks instead? The ING details line about registering the account with the Cda Gov makes me feel that you are locked into the account with ING and can&#039;t move your money around like this. 

Basically, if you have a $5K account with ING TFSA registered, can you empty it and start a TFSA with someone else?

Thanks. Great blog btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Does anyone think that a person could hold the ING TFSA until Jan 2 and then start one with an investment broker for stocks instead? The ING details line about registering the account with the Cda Gov makes me feel that you are locked into the account with ING and can&#8217;t move your money around like this. </p>
<p>Basically, if you have a $5K account with ING TFSA registered, can you empty it and start a TFSA with someone else?</p>
<p>Thanks. Great blog btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our thoughts were for this year we&#039;re going to roll our emergency funds into our TFSA for this year, and in subsequent years use it for investing.

Its great positioning by ING.  They position themselves as the savings bank.  Being the first to offer the product is great for them.

I&#039;ve seen a TFSA analysis reports done by a bank economist.  I see this as a product that the banks will be pushing more in 2-3 years when the maximum account size is worth their while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our thoughts were for this year we&#8217;re going to roll our emergency funds into our TFSA for this year, and in subsequent years use it for investing.</p>
<p>Its great positioning by ING.  They position themselves as the savings bank.  Being the first to offer the product is great for them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a TFSA analysis reports done by a bank economist.  I see this as a product that the banks will be pushing more in 2-3 years when the maximum account size is worth their while.</p>
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		<title>By: Dividends Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividends Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting that information.  I&#039;ve only seem limited information from TD &amp; BNS so far, but ING appears to be disclosing as much as they can in the hopes of getting out of the gate first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting that information.  I&#8217;ve only seem limited information from TD &amp; BNS so far, but ING appears to be disclosing as much as they can in the hopes of getting out of the gate first.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ing may be the first to offer INTEREST on the TSFA, but Scotiabank is the first chartered bank to offer the TSFA. You can visit the branch now and complete the paperwork in advance of the January 1 active date. You can also schedule your pre authorized deposits. In fact, this site has an ad at the top right for the BNS TSFA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ing may be the first to offer INTEREST on the TSFA, but Scotiabank is the first chartered bank to offer the TSFA. You can visit the branch now and complete the paperwork in advance of the January 1 active date. You can also schedule your pre authorized deposits. In fact, this site has an ad at the top right for the BNS TSFA.</p>
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		<title>By: mjw2005</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjw2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another advantage of a TFSA over dividend income is that even though a large amount dividend income is tax free (if it is your sole source of income) it still counts as income and can effect your ability to recieve Old age benefits after 65....plus dividend income is grossed up when calculating your eligibility for Government benefits....whereas any income from a TFSA will not be counted as income even in regards to qualifying for some government benefits....not that this will matter for most people for many years but still something to think about over the long term.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another advantage of a TFSA over dividend income is that even though a large amount dividend income is tax free (if it is your sole source of income) it still counts as income and can effect your ability to recieve Old age benefits after 65&#8230;.plus dividend income is grossed up when calculating your eligibility for Government benefits&#8230;.whereas any income from a TFSA will not be counted as income even in regards to qualifying for some government benefits&#8230;.not that this will matter for most people for many years but still something to think about over the long term&#8230;..</p>
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