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		<title>By: Bruixa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruixa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen anyone take into account that if you move to be closer to your work, you can deduct all your moving expenses in your tax return, even the sales agent fee.
Also, I have friends that live in Ajax and work downtown, take the GO and it only takes them 30 minutes, so I would buy there, something that you can put a big downpayment on and sell the house. With prices at a low level, there&#039;s no where to go but up. Interest rates are very low, your husband is just starting out, so chances are his income will increase and you will be able to make lump sum payments on your mortgage.  Buy something that&#039;s not too old and have it inspected!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen anyone take into account that if you move to be closer to your work, you can deduct all your moving expenses in your tax return, even the sales agent fee.<br />
Also, I have friends that live in Ajax and work downtown, take the GO and it only takes them 30 minutes, so I would buy there, something that you can put a big downpayment on and sell the house. With prices at a low level, there&#8217;s no where to go but up. Interest rates are very low, your husband is just starting out, so chances are his income will increase and you will be able to make lump sum payments on your mortgage.  Buy something that&#8217;s not too old and have it inspected!</p>
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		<title>By: TheAutomatedMoneyMachine</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheAutomatedMoneyMachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest to buy a house in Oct 09 to Mar. 09.   That&#039;s when there&#039;s going to have distress in the housing market as the Stock market crashed again like last year.  People will be in a depress mode that they are probably going to sell their homes in low value.    

The banks will have more incentive as the market will froze.  So you locked in a low interest mortgage fix for a few years and sell it when the market improves in a few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest to buy a house in Oct 09 to Mar. 09.   That&#8217;s when there&#8217;s going to have distress in the housing market as the Stock market crashed again like last year.  People will be in a depress mode that they are probably going to sell their homes in low value.    </p>
<p>The banks will have more incentive as the market will froze.  So you locked in a low interest mortgage fix for a few years and sell it when the market improves in a few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Novice, never mind, I didn&#039;t select freehold in my previous search, you are right there are much fewer freehold properties so you&#039;d have to also include the condo fees making the owning of the townhouse about the same price as renting.  But if you select house instead of townhouse there are some as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Novice, never mind, I didn&#8217;t select freehold in my previous search, you are right there are much fewer freehold properties so you&#8217;d have to also include the condo fees making the owning of the townhouse about the same price as renting.  But if you select house instead of townhouse there are some as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking at attached townhouses on mls.ca and found quite a few.  (select the townhouse option, freehold so you get no condo fees, 3+ bedrooms)

I had 2000/year for maintenance which is what we spent in our 40 year old home/year, now we live in a new home and it&#039;s about 400/year only.

Home improvements are optional so I didn&#039;t include them, you can also spend more money on rentals if you want..  If you buy a house make sure it matches your needs so you don&#039;t spend 20k on a new kitchen etc right away in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking at attached townhouses on mls.ca and found quite a few.  (select the townhouse option, freehold so you get no condo fees, 3+ bedrooms)</p>
<p>I had 2000/year for maintenance which is what we spent in our 40 year old home/year, now we live in a new home and it&#8217;s about 400/year only.</p>
<p>Home improvements are optional so I didn&#8217;t include them, you can also spend more money on rentals if you want..  If you buy a house make sure it matches your needs so you don&#8217;t spend 20k on a new kitchen etc right away in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Novice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the numbers can be worked any way to show that any one decision is better financially then the other (rent or buy). To me, the biggest issue is that the poster doesn&#039;t know the neighbourhoods, or what they want. Renting gives a way to taste the neighbourhood without fully committing and is really the most logical. 

Nathalie -- where are you looking? Houses in my part of North York (Don mills) detached 3 bedroom start around $400K. Even a semi would be more than the 250 you have above, unless it&#039;s North york as in Jane/Finch and even then, maybe not. You&#039;re also ignoring all the home improvement costs, which the various housing bears are sure to mention. To me, it&#039;s not about the numbers, i&#039;ts about being able to make an  informed choice and the poster doesn&#039;t have enough information to make a truly informed choice yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the numbers can be worked any way to show that any one decision is better financially then the other (rent or buy). To me, the biggest issue is that the poster doesn&#8217;t know the neighbourhoods, or what they want. Renting gives a way to taste the neighbourhood without fully committing and is really the most logical. </p>
<p>Nathalie &#8212; where are you looking? Houses in my part of North York (Don mills) detached 3 bedroom start around $400K. Even a semi would be more than the 250 you have above, unless it&#8217;s North york as in Jane/Finch and even then, maybe not. You&#8217;re also ignoring all the home improvement costs, which the various housing bears are sure to mention. To me, it&#8217;s not about the numbers, i&#8217;ts about being able to make an  informed choice and the poster doesn&#8217;t have enough information to make a truly informed choice yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cost of rental: $1500/month + heat and hydro and water, phone etc 
Total cost of rental with water: $1600/month + heat/hydro phone etc.

Cost of buying the house:
(assuming house costs $250k and you put 90k down)
Mortgage payment: $860/month (at five year fixed rate of 4.1%)
Property Taxes: $300/month ($3600/year)
Water: $100/month ($1200/year)
Maintenance: $166/month ($2000/year)
Insurance: $60/month ($720/year)

Total cost per month: $1486/month + heat, hydro, phone etc..

Looks like owning the house is slightly cheaper, most times when you rent an entire house you have to pay the water bill as well.

I guess it depends on whether you think the market will go up or down over the next 5 years.  Personally I would buy, you&#039;re staying long enough to want to paint, make changes in the house etc and there are plenty of nice townhouses in your price range in the North York area.  I would live close to husband&#039;s work so he doesn&#039;t miss your kids growing up also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cost of rental: $1500/month + heat and hydro and water, phone etc<br />
Total cost of rental with water: $1600/month + heat/hydro phone etc.</p>
<p>Cost of buying the house:<br />
(assuming house costs $250k and you put 90k down)<br />
Mortgage payment: $860/month (at five year fixed rate of 4.1%)<br />
Property Taxes: $300/month ($3600/year)<br />
Water: $100/month ($1200/year)<br />
Maintenance: $166/month ($2000/year)<br />
Insurance: $60/month ($720/year)</p>
<p>Total cost per month: $1486/month + heat, hydro, phone etc..</p>
<p>Looks like owning the house is slightly cheaper, most times when you rent an entire house you have to pay the water bill as well.</p>
<p>I guess it depends on whether you think the market will go up or down over the next 5 years.  Personally I would buy, you&#8217;re staying long enough to want to paint, make changes in the house etc and there are plenty of nice townhouses in your price range in the North York area.  I would live close to husband&#8217;s work so he doesn&#8217;t miss your kids growing up also.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristy Wellwood - kristywellwood@royallepage.ca.  She helped several of my friends find rentals, and she is wonderful to work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristy Wellwood &#8211; <a href="mailto:kristywellwood@royallepage.ca">kristywellwood@royallepage.ca</a>.  She helped several of my friends find rentals, and she is wonderful to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Germack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Germack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paying $90,000 over 5 years to rent scares the daylights out of me.

I know it sounds scary, however a house of 400K would cost you much more in the long-term:

Interest/Opportunity costs: 20K (~5%)
Property tax: 4K
Utilities: 3K
Maintenance:3K
Total: 30K per year or 150K in 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paying $90,000 over 5 years to rent scares the daylights out of me.</p>
<p>I know it sounds scary, however a house of 400K would cost you much more in the long-term:</p>
<p>Interest/Opportunity costs: 20K (~5%)<br />
Property tax: 4K<br />
Utilities: 3K<br />
Maintenance:3K<br />
Total: 30K per year or 150K in 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good agents will expect a commission after finding you a place, not before.  I paid $400 for mine only after we signed the rental agreement with the landlord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good agents will expect a commission after finding you a place, not before.  I paid $400 for mine only after we signed the rental agreement with the landlord.</p>
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		<title>By: qmanrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>qmanrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny enough - I rent out townhouses in Pickering, Ajax and Whitby.  So if you are looking to rent feel free to contact me.  I have a 3 Bedroom 1.5 Bathroom available for Sept. 1 across from the Pickering Town Centre - located off the 401 at Liverpool, and right by the Pickering Go Station. :) 

I&#039;m biased towards purchasing Real Estate as you can tell. At the same time, I don&#039;t believe buying Real Estate is for everyone at every time in a person&#039;s life.

I could give you many reasons why you should buy.  I guess the big question is - are you looking for an investment or a place to call home.  They may not be the same thing.  Happy to help you out if you need some support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny enough &#8211; I rent out townhouses in Pickering, Ajax and Whitby.  So if you are looking to rent feel free to contact me.  I have a 3 Bedroom 1.5 Bathroom available for Sept. 1 across from the Pickering Town Centre &#8211; located off the 401 at Liverpool, and right by the Pickering Go Station. :) </p>
<p>I&#8217;m biased towards purchasing Real Estate as you can tell. At the same time, I don&#8217;t believe buying Real Estate is for everyone at every time in a person&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>I could give you many reasons why you should buy.  I guess the big question is &#8211; are you looking for an investment or a place to call home.  They may not be the same thing.  Happy to help you out if you need some support.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Rebecca, that&#039;s scary.

Anyone know any reputable rental agents in the GTA who are paid by owners looking for tenants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Rebecca, that&#8217;s scary.</p>
<p>Anyone know any reputable rental agents in the GTA who are paid by owners looking for tenants?</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful of rental agencies. Make sure you understand the service that they provide. I went to one where i paid money only to get access to a phone number that just have automated recordings of various rental listing. I wasn&#039;t as lucky to work with rental agencies like those in the posting above. Needless to say, I didn&#039;t end up using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful of rental agencies. Make sure you understand the service that they provide. I went to one where i paid money only to get access to a phone number that just have automated recordings of various rental listing. I wasn&#8217;t as lucky to work with rental agencies like those in the posting above. Needless to say, I didn&#8217;t end up using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rental agent is a great way to go.  Rent a nice 3 bedroom home: If you&#039;re going to rent for a good period of time, make it a place that you&#039;ll call home and feel comfortable in.  Explain what you want to your agent and he/she will help find the right fit for you and your family.  We went with an agent (in Vancouver, BC) and found a nice, well-maintained 3 bedroom home for rent and were very happy there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rental agent is a great way to go.  Rent a nice 3 bedroom home: If you&#8217;re going to rent for a good period of time, make it a place that you&#8217;ll call home and feel comfortable in.  Explain what you want to your agent and he/she will help find the right fit for you and your family.  We went with an agent (in Vancouver, BC) and found a nice, well-maintained 3 bedroom home for rent and were very happy there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Save Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Save Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexandra, - Why don&#039;t you look at Craigslist.com?

There should be plenty of posts on rentals. 

Good Luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexandra, &#8211; Why don&#8217;t you look at Craigslist.com?</p>
<p>There should be plenty of posts on rentals. </p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Where do I look for rentals in Toronto? The newspaper? Is there a good website to look at for condo rentals?&lt;/i&gt;

I would consider using a rental agent to look for you.  Many get paid by the owner (I think the usual cost is a month&#039;s rent), so the service would be free to you, and since you are out of town this could be a real time saver.  You give them your requirements and they do all the leg work.  There are too many rental units out there that are terrible, or the ads are misleading, etc.

For the money and sheer square footage, I would also suggest that renting a home, not a condo, would be much better in your situation.  Some of the newer condos are unbelievably small.  Houses (especially the older ones) have the advantage of having way more space, perhaps a backyard, and you don&#039;t have to worry about inflated rent prices to cover the condo maintainance fees (which are considerable in many cases).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Where do I look for rentals in Toronto? The newspaper? Is there a good website to look at for condo rentals?</i></p>
<p>I would consider using a rental agent to look for you.  Many get paid by the owner (I think the usual cost is a month&#8217;s rent), so the service would be free to you, and since you are out of town this could be a real time saver.  You give them your requirements and they do all the leg work.  There are too many rental units out there that are terrible, or the ads are misleading, etc.</p>
<p>For the money and sheer square footage, I would also suggest that renting a home, not a condo, would be much better in your situation.  Some of the newer condos are unbelievably small.  Houses (especially the older ones) have the advantage of having way more space, perhaps a backyard, and you don&#8217;t have to worry about inflated rent prices to cover the condo maintainance fees (which are considerable in many cases).</p>
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		<title>By: Novice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathryn -- the first thing to do is decide on a neighbourhood / location. Then probably a realtor may be a better option to find a lease, especailly since you&#039;ll probably be on a time limit (I&#039;m a dad, I know how it is). But if you&#039;re looking at places in Ajax in the morning, Don Mills in the afternoon and Downtown in the evening, you&#039;ll exhuast yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathryn &#8212; the first thing to do is decide on a neighbourhood / location. Then probably a realtor may be a better option to find a lease, especailly since you&#8217;ll probably be on a time limit (I&#8217;m a dad, I know how it is). But if you&#8217;re looking at places in Ajax in the morning, Don Mills in the afternoon and Downtown in the evening, you&#8217;ll exhuast yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  Where do I look for rentals in Toronto?  The newspaper?  Is there a good website to look at for condo rentals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  Where do I look for rentals in Toronto?  The newspaper?  Is there a good website to look at for condo rentals?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a lot to think about.  Thanks for posting your thoughts!

More info:  When we move our kids will be boy (age 12) and girl (age 10) so we are really looking at 3 bedroom places.  

I don&#039;t know where I&#039;d be working yet.  

So far the consensus seems to be &#039;Don&#039;t even think about living separately unless he can get his workweek down to 3 longer days&quot;  and &quot;seriously consider renting if you are there for 5 years or less&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lot to think about.  Thanks for posting your thoughts!</p>
<p>More info:  When we move our kids will be boy (age 12) and girl (age 10) so we are really looking at 3 bedroom places.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where I&#8217;d be working yet.  </p>
<p>So far the consensus seems to be &#8216;Don&#8217;t even think about living separately unless he can get his workweek down to 3 longer days&#8221;  and &#8220;seriously consider renting if you are there for 5 years or less&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Novice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four pillars - my comment about local bias was based on the comments of fellow posters who preferred their corner of the GTA, not the originating question.

Rick - I think multiple perspectives are very useful so do read greaterfool. However, it must be said that the central prediction Garth made -- that Summer of 2009 real estate market will be the time of the crash -- has instead turned out wrong. (Use the date function on his site to read his postings for August 2008). That&#039;s not to say it might not happen in 2010, or 2011 or 2014 when the 5 year lockins are over, but Garth has managed to gloss entirely over that. For me, for a prediction to be useful, both the event and the &#039;when&#039; have to be right. It&#039;s not hard to predict that eventually house prices will fall, the timing has to be right too. After all, the sun will explode one day and all property will be worthless too.... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four pillars &#8211; my comment about local bias was based on the comments of fellow posters who preferred their corner of the GTA, not the originating question.</p>
<p>Rick &#8211; I think multiple perspectives are very useful so do read greaterfool. However, it must be said that the central prediction Garth made &#8212; that Summer of 2009 real estate market will be the time of the crash &#8212; has instead turned out wrong. (Use the date function on his site to read his postings for August 2008). That&#8217;s not to say it might not happen in 2010, or 2011 or 2014 when the 5 year lockins are over, but Garth has managed to gloss entirely over that. For me, for a prediction to be useful, both the event and the &#8216;when&#8217; have to be right. It&#8217;s not hard to predict that eventually house prices will fall, the timing has to be right too. After all, the sun will explode one day and all property will be worthless too&#8230;. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would rent in Toronto. With historically low interest rates their prices are currently at all time highs. I believe the real estate bubble in Toronto has re-inflated and multiple bids resulting in prices over asking are happening despite the record job losses in southern Ontario. All of the goverment debt being incurred to finance stimulus money can only result in higher interest rates which will deflate the bubble over the next five years. If you buy in Toronto you will be buying near the peak. Check out greaterfool.ca for a bearish perspective on real estate that I think makes sense. In terms of selling to a friend I would only do that if I explained my own reasons why I thought housing prices are heading down and if they still want to buy I would tell them that I would be willing to sell at the appraised value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rent in Toronto. With historically low interest rates their prices are currently at all time highs. I believe the real estate bubble in Toronto has re-inflated and multiple bids resulting in prices over asking are happening despite the record job losses in southern Ontario. All of the goverment debt being incurred to finance stimulus money can only result in higher interest rates which will deflate the bubble over the next five years. If you buy in Toronto you will be buying near the peak. Check out greaterfool.ca for a bearish perspective on real estate that I think makes sense. In terms of selling to a friend I would only do that if I explained my own reasons why I thought housing prices are heading down and if they still want to buy I would tell them that I would be willing to sell at the appraised value.</p>
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