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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
		<link>http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/december-2008-net-worth-update-045.htm/comment-page-1#comment-72199</link>
		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james, while you are correct in that real estate values in North America are declining, our local economy is doing the opposite.  Even if we had a fairly significant correction from current markets prices, my purchase price would still be conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>james, while you are correct in that real estate values in North America are declining, our local economy is doing the opposite.  Even if we had a fairly significant correction from current markets prices, my purchase price would still be conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you should use current market values (or approximation of them) of your principal residence and investment property. Considering the values of residential properties in North America is currently declining, using purchase price of your property holdings would tend to inflate your net worth, especially since property is a significant part of your assets.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you should use current market values (or approximation of them) of your principal residence and investment property. Considering the values of residential properties in North America is currently declining, using purchase price of your property holdings would tend to inflate your net worth, especially since property is a significant part of your assets.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Paul S. and others,

I notice a great deal of comments in various posts refer to a home equity line of credit.

How often do you guys &quot;dip&quot; into this to fund your investments?
How much do you invest/year?  Thousands?  Tens of thousands?

Is it not more advantageous to contribute moderately to investments but instead, pay-off all mortgage or other debts first?

Since I&#039;m in my mid-30s, I guess I&#039;m looking to understand why reducing all mortage debt and contributions to RRSPs are not the first priority for some of you. 

I am very interested to hear your/all perspectives.

Thanks and good luck with your investments in 2009!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Paul S. and others,</p>
<p>I notice a great deal of comments in various posts refer to a home equity line of credit.</p>
<p>How often do you guys &#8220;dip&#8221; into this to fund your investments?<br />
How much do you invest/year?  Thousands?  Tens of thousands?</p>
<p>Is it not more advantageous to contribute moderately to investments but instead, pay-off all mortgage or other debts first?</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m in my mid-30s, I guess I&#8217;m looking to understand why reducing all mortage debt and contributions to RRSPs are not the first priority for some of you. </p>
<p>I am very interested to hear your/all perspectives.</p>
<p>Thanks and good luck with your investments in 2009!</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathryn, we do not include the RESP in our net worth.  Technically, we could include it, but we feel that it&#039;s money allocated to our child.

Spudman, the cash will be used to pay down the mortgage further which can then be reborrowed from our HELOC and finally reinvested in my SM portfolio.  Check out this post for a better explanation:
http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/the-smith-manoeuvre-a-wealth-strategy-part-1.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathryn, we do not include the RESP in our net worth.  Technically, we could include it, but we feel that it&#8217;s money allocated to our child.</p>
<p>Spudman, the cash will be used to pay down the mortgage further which can then be reborrowed from our HELOC and finally reinvested in my SM portfolio.  Check out this post for a better explanation:<br />
<a href="http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/the-smith-manoeuvre-a-wealth-strategy-part-1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/the-smith-manoeuvre-a-wealth-strategy-part-1.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spudman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spudman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned using cash for the mortgage in 2009, why are you not using the HELOC or this cash to be buying more of your non reg (Smith Man) account assets since many are beaten down below your cost.  I know the markets are still very unpredicable, but in 10 years time from now won&#039;t this be a great dollar cost averaging time that some may not see again in the future?
and the dividends at the current prices of many banks are awesome.
Cheers, love your posts

Spudman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned using cash for the mortgage in 2009, why are you not using the HELOC or this cash to be buying more of your non reg (Smith Man) account assets since many are beaten down below your cost.  I know the markets are still very unpredicable, but in 10 years time from now won&#8217;t this be a great dollar cost averaging time that some may not see again in the future?<br />
and the dividends at the current prices of many banks are awesome.<br />
Cheers, love your posts</p>
<p>Spudman</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathryn,

I include my kids RESP values in my net worth calculation.  It is really a savings for a future expense that you are putting money towards now.  I believe the only reason &quot;it is in the childs name&quot; is to properly account for the government grant.  I believe it should be part of your net worth statement.

The only question im my mind is if you include the annual grants in your net worth.  The grants are taken back if your child does not pursue post-secondary education.  So one might argue that you should not include this portion in your net wrth because it is not really yours (until your child attends post-secondary school).  To be conservative I do not inculde the grants.  All I include are the contrubitions my wife and I have made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathryn,</p>
<p>I include my kids RESP values in my net worth calculation.  It is really a savings for a future expense that you are putting money towards now.  I believe the only reason &#8220;it is in the childs name&#8221; is to properly account for the government grant.  I believe it should be part of your net worth statement.</p>
<p>The only question im my mind is if you include the annual grants in your net worth.  The grants are taken back if your child does not pursue post-secondary education.  So one might argue that you should not include this portion in your net wrth because it is not really yours (until your child attends post-secondary school).  To be conservative I do not inculde the grants.  All I include are the contrubitions my wife and I have made.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We also track our Net Worth on the first of every month and keep track of it on google spreadsheets.

I&#039;m feeling torn as to whether we should include the kids RESPs as a part of our Net Worth as the money is being held for them, rather than for us.  

What do others of you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also track our Net Worth on the first of every month and keep track of it on google spreadsheets.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m feeling torn as to whether we should include the kids RESPs as a part of our Net Worth as the money is being held for them, rather than for us.  </p>
<p>What do others of you do?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reply.

I was wondering what the return for your investment in 2008 is, excluding your family salary income 

Have a prosperous new year


Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reply.</p>
<p>I was wondering what the return for your investment in 2008 is, excluding your family salary income </p>
<p>Have a prosperous new year</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: paul s</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11%

Great job!

Personally I wouldn&#039;t keep any savings or cash around.  It should be deployed reducing debt and related monthly debt service, otherwise there is a significant opportunity cost.  If you have an unexpected need for cash, use your HELOC.

Just MO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11%</p>
<p>Great job!</p>
<p>Personally I wouldn&#8217;t keep any savings or cash around.  It should be deployed reducing debt and related monthly debt service, otherwise there is a significant opportunity cost.  If you have an unexpected need for cash, use your HELOC.</p>
<p>Just MO</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback guys.  To answer the questions:

Joe, net worth is Assets - liabilities.  My salary is used to pay expenses with the remaining used for savings (assets).  Therefore, salary is implicitly included in the net worth statement.

17th Ave, in the post, I explained the drop in non-reg portfolio is due to selling stock for a capital loss and transferring the cash into my savings account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback guys.  To answer the questions:</p>
<p>Joe, net worth is Assets &#8211; liabilities.  My salary is used to pay expenses with the remaining used for savings (assets).  Therefore, salary is implicitly included in the net worth statement.</p>
<p>17th Ave, in the post, I explained the drop in non-reg portfolio is due to selling stock for a capital loss and transferring the cash into my savings account.</p>
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		<title>By: 17th Avenue Money Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>17th Avenue Money Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A drop of -31.69% for your Non-Registered Investment Account in December? 

Ouch! Some lesson must have been learned, I guess. 

But, overall, it&#039;s been a solid year for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A drop of -31.69% for your Non-Registered Investment Account in December? </p>
<p>Ouch! Some lesson must have been learned, I guess. </p>
<p>But, overall, it&#8217;s been a solid year for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you include the salaries you owned in the year to calculate your 2008 net worth gain of 11%

Thanks.


Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you include the salaries you owned in the year to calculate your 2008 net worth gain of 11%</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Dividend Growth Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividend Growth Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really like the strong canadian companies then you should definitely start deploying your available cash to solid dividend payers on a monthly schedule (dollar cost averaging). With interest rates dropping, investing in the stock market for yield is gaining an appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really like the strong canadian companies then you should definitely start deploying your available cash to solid dividend payers on a monthly schedule (dollar cost averaging). With interest rates dropping, investing in the stock market for yield is gaining an appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, an 11% net worth gain for 2008?

Nice!!

I look at the market correction/contraction this year as an excellent buying opportunity for stocks and contributions to RRSPs.  Sure, the RRSP account has taken a MAJOR hit...(I&#039;m 80% equities) but the markets always return in time.  

Further, given the low purchase price of some solid CDN Equity Funds and CDN Index Funds, these vehicles are ripe for the picking!!

Combine RRSP contributions in 2009 with paying-down the mortgage, I too look forward to some net worth gains.

That said, I would like to learn more about the Smith Manoeuvre.
How it works, what the benefits are vs. other debt-load strategies.

Happy New Year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, an 11% net worth gain for 2008?</p>
<p>Nice!!</p>
<p>I look at the market correction/contraction this year as an excellent buying opportunity for stocks and contributions to RRSPs.  Sure, the RRSP account has taken a MAJOR hit&#8230;(I&#8217;m 80% equities) but the markets always return in time.  </p>
<p>Further, given the low purchase price of some solid CDN Equity Funds and CDN Index Funds, these vehicles are ripe for the picking!!</p>
<p>Combine RRSP contributions in 2009 with paying-down the mortgage, I too look forward to some net worth gains.</p>
<p>That said, I would like to learn more about the Smith Manoeuvre.<br />
How it works, what the benefits are vs. other debt-load strategies.</p>
<p>Happy New Year!</p>
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		<title>By: DAvid</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAvid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making an 11% gain this year is extraordinary -- congratulations! We met some goals this year as well -- we are now debt free, and increasing our savings.

The investment in RRSP was completed on September 30; I can still hear the screams of my portfolio as it leaped from the cliff! At least I get a tax reduction.

Here&#039;s hopes that 2009 will be the year we convert the low cost stocks to a profitable portfolio!

Happy New Year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making an 11% gain this year is extraordinary &#8212; congratulations! We met some goals this year as well &#8212; we are now debt free, and increasing our savings.</p>
<p>The investment in RRSP was completed on September 30; I can still hear the screams of my portfolio as it leaped from the cliff! At least I get a tax reduction.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hopes that 2009 will be the year we convert the low cost stocks to a profitable portfolio!</p>
<p>Happy New Year!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always inspiring!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always inspiring!</p>
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		<title>By: David V</title>
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		<dc:creator>David V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always appreciate your honesty in letting other people see your financial status.  I&#039;m a bit worried about doing my net worth year end, as I don&#039;t own a house to help level off my net worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always appreciate your honesty in letting other people see your financial status.  I&#8217;m a bit worried about doing my net worth year end, as I don&#8217;t own a house to help level off my net worth.</p>
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		<title>By: moneygardener</title>
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		<dc:creator>moneygardener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11% is better than a kick in the pants in these markets.  Good progress in 2008 FT.  

I am going to post my 2008 calendar net worth growth figure soon on the moneygardener even though I only measure net worth bimonthly on the 15th of the month.

Happy New Year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11% is better than a kick in the pants in these markets.  Good progress in 2008 FT.  </p>
<p>I am going to post my 2008 calendar net worth growth figure soon on the moneygardener even though I only measure net worth bimonthly on the 15th of the month.</p>
<p>Happy New Year!</p>
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