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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My rule of thumb, It is better to pay down your mortgage,  unless your RRSP return minus inflation is consistently higher than the rate on your mortgage plus possible income from this property.(Renting a room. in your house to somebody or maybe renting all house or maybe you will want to tern your house into little motel)
In addition to that do not forget about smith m. which makes the mortgage option even more worthwhile.
 RRSP  worthwhile?!  Maybe! But mortgage is even better since It is difficult to find not risky short term RRSP investment  with a return higher  when a typical mortgage. 

Do not forget about inflation and do not forget that your RRSP is still taxable when you withdraw it. Do not forget that you might need to wait even more time until your income is low and it make sense to withdraw from your RRSP. 

 As well do not forget that you can rent a room in your house and generate even more profit. Do not forget about the rate appreciation.  Appreciation of an asset is an increase in its value which is roughly speaking is equivalent to the rate of inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My rule of thumb, It is better to pay down your mortgage,  unless your RRSP return minus inflation is consistently higher than the rate on your mortgage plus possible income from this property.(Renting a room. in your house to somebody or maybe renting all house or maybe you will want to tern your house into little motel)<br />
In addition to that do not forget about smith m. which makes the mortgage option even more worthwhile.<br />
 RRSP  worthwhile?!  Maybe! But mortgage is even better since It is difficult to find not risky short term RRSP investment  with a return higher  when a typical mortgage. </p>
<p>Do not forget about inflation and do not forget that your RRSP is still taxable when you withdraw it. Do not forget that you might need to wait even more time until your income is low and it make sense to withdraw from your RRSP. </p>
<p> As well do not forget that you can rent a room in your house and generate even more profit. Do not forget about the rate appreciation.  Appreciation of an asset is an increase in its value which is roughly speaking is equivalent to the rate of inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Rempel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Rempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 03:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken,

Have you driven around Canada lately? You know how much vacant land we have? In northern Ontario, you can drive 2,000 kms. with hardly any civilization. You could set off nuclear bombs and nobody would notice!

On the prairies, there are many places you can drive 4-6 hours on a major highway and see nothing but crops.

We also have millions of lakes, so believe it or not, every single Canadian could own a 1-acre lot on a lake!

I extrapolated the earth&#039;s population and growth rate with the amount of land very roughly. In perhaps 5-600 years, if there is no interruption in our population growth, then we may start to see land shortages.

In the mean time, sorry, but I&#039;ve heard the &quot;they ain&#039;t makin&#039; any more land&quot; argument many times. Drive from Toronto to Vancouver and then tell us what you think about the likelihood of a shortage of land.


Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken,</p>
<p>Have you driven around Canada lately? You know how much vacant land we have? In northern Ontario, you can drive 2,000 kms. with hardly any civilization. You could set off nuclear bombs and nobody would notice!</p>
<p>On the prairies, there are many places you can drive 4-6 hours on a major highway and see nothing but crops.</p>
<p>We also have millions of lakes, so believe it or not, every single Canadian could own a 1-acre lot on a lake!</p>
<p>I extrapolated the earth&#8217;s population and growth rate with the amount of land very roughly. In perhaps 5-600 years, if there is no interruption in our population growth, then we may start to see land shortages.</p>
<p>In the mean time, sorry, but I&#8217;ve heard the &#8220;they ain&#8217;t makin&#8217; any more land&#8221; argument many times. Drive from Toronto to Vancouver and then tell us what you think about the likelihood of a shortage of land.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d choose none of the two options above.

Contributing to personal mortgage means that you are freezing the money forever (until end of mortgage or sell of house)

Contributing to RRSP means more money to institions (government) and less money for you. It&#039;s true you save on tax bracket NOW - but not later. If you plan to redeem the money - plan to pay big.

Therefore, the best solution is to invest that money in rental property - even if the rental income doesn&#039;t cover the expense - because the expense will directly be reduced from your income - just like RRSP. The only difference is that your rental property now becomes a money generating medium that you phisical see and own (unlike RRSP). And the value of properties are generally increasing (unless a recession, but even then, don&#039;t your RRSP go down in a recession?)

There will only be more people in this world. However, there will not be more land on earth. Therefore, i suggest investing in rental properties.

Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d choose none of the two options above.</p>
<p>Contributing to personal mortgage means that you are freezing the money forever (until end of mortgage or sell of house)</p>
<p>Contributing to RRSP means more money to institions (government) and less money for you. It&#8217;s true you save on tax bracket NOW &#8211; but not later. If you plan to redeem the money &#8211; plan to pay big.</p>
<p>Therefore, the best solution is to invest that money in rental property &#8211; even if the rental income doesn&#8217;t cover the expense &#8211; because the expense will directly be reduced from your income &#8211; just like RRSP. The only difference is that your rental property now becomes a money generating medium that you phisical see and own (unlike RRSP). And the value of properties are generally increasing (unless a recession, but even then, don&#8217;t your RRSP go down in a recession?)</p>
<p>There will only be more people in this world. However, there will not be more land on earth. Therefore, i suggest investing in rental properties.</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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		<title>By: GS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FT, the link to the RRSP vs Mortgage Calculator link needs updating to:

http://www.empire.ca/consumer/en/calculators/rrsp_mortgage_questions.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FT, the link to the RRSP vs Mortgage Calculator link needs updating to:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.empire.ca/consumer/en/calculators/rrsp_mortgage_questions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.empire.ca/consumer/en/calculators/rrsp_mortgage_questions.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my case, a $27000.00 mortgage @ 2.75% will take me approx. 1.6 years to pay off.  I will then have access to approx. $70,000.00 of liquid income for the next 10 to 12 years. Take into account, a little spending of that money, $600,000.00 when I retire, will certainly suffice whether I spend a dime on rsp&#039;s.  Add that to a company pension, canada pension and oas and I will struggle more with how to avoid taxation than wondering if I am  going to outlive my rif.  I&#039;m not bragging about my situation but just explaining my facts. Markets will come back as they always do and anyone in a long term mortgage as opposed to my situation, will no doubt benefit, from regular house payments and increasing rsp investments over the term of the mortgage as well as dumping the tax return against the principal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my case, a $27000.00 mortgage @ 2.75% will take me approx. 1.6 years to pay off.  I will then have access to approx. $70,000.00 of liquid income for the next 10 to 12 years. Take into account, a little spending of that money, $600,000.00 when I retire, will certainly suffice whether I spend a dime on rsp&#8217;s.  Add that to a company pension, canada pension and oas and I will struggle more with how to avoid taxation than wondering if I am  going to outlive my rif.  I&#8217;m not bragging about my situation but just explaining my facts. Markets will come back as they always do and anyone in a long term mortgage as opposed to my situation, will no doubt benefit, from regular house payments and increasing rsp investments over the term of the mortgage as well as dumping the tax return against the principal.</p>
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		<title>By: EricJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to offer a third option...

Use the extra funds to purchase a multi family building. The rents will always increase and you can leave the building to your heirs. In addition, the monthly income will not simply disappear because the property value has declined unlike many retirement vehicles where your monthly income from those depends upon their value.

EricJ - http://www.dreamhomefinancing.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to offer a third option&#8230;</p>
<p>Use the extra funds to purchase a multi family building. The rents will always increase and you can leave the building to your heirs. In addition, the monthly income will not simply disappear because the property value has declined unlike many retirement vehicles where your monthly income from those depends upon their value.</p>
<p>EricJ &#8211; <a href="http://www.dreamhomefinancing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dreamhomefinancing.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kris B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannon, thank you very much for your calculations.  It seems you answered my question, for a higher MTR investing in a non-reg account is best as you loose much less of your investment to taxes than an RRSP if you retire the HELOC.  However if the MTR is lower I can see that both the HELOC payments, and tax loss would be much closer.  Overall I think it&#039;s conclusive that a non-reg account is better for most using the SM.  However I am still interested in other calculations showing a combination of the two.  Such as investing the RRSP return in the non-reg account each year, plus monthly contributions to each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannon, thank you very much for your calculations.  It seems you answered my question, for a higher MTR investing in a non-reg account is best as you loose much less of your investment to taxes than an RRSP if you retire the HELOC.  However if the MTR is lower I can see that both the HELOC payments, and tax loss would be much closer.  Overall I think it&#8217;s conclusive that a non-reg account is better for most using the SM.  However I am still interested in other calculations showing a combination of the two.  Such as investing the RRSP return in the non-reg account each year, plus monthly contributions to each.</p>
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		<title>By: cannon_fodder</title>
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		<dc:creator>cannon_fodder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 02:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a response to Kris B&#039;s intriguing thought.  Instead of borrowing home equity as it accumulates to invest in a non-registered portfolio, borrow to invest in an RRSP, and apply the full refund to the mortgage.  This uses a readvanceable mortgage so there is a lot of flexibility to do this as each payment is applied.

So, I tweaked my SM Calculator to allow for this scenario.  Here is what I found:

Inputs

- $300,000 House Value
- $240,000 Mortgage @ 5%
- $1,395.85 monthly payments amortized over 25 years
- 8% investment growth rate
- 5.75% HELOC rate
- Marginal Tax Rate of 46.41%

It should be noted that higher MTR&#039;s make the case for investing into an RRSP more favourable when compared to the &#039;traditional&#039; SM.

Here are the outputs:

With SM -
- Mtg is retired in 21 years
- $240k HELOC that is TAX DEDUCTIBLE
- investment portfolio of $304,142 that is NON-REGISTERED
- Adjusted cost base (not including commissions) of $138,516

With RRSP
- Mtg is retired in 18.25 years.  Therefore, run the scenario until 21 years still making &#039;mortgage payments&#039; but the money now goes to paying the HELOC interest and anything left goes into RRSP.
- $240k HELOC that is NOT TAX DEDUCTIBLE
- investment portfolio of $395,143 that is in an RRSP

Assuming the same MTR as used above, the net of it is whether a $240k LOC that costs $13,800 after tax to service annually and a fully taxable portfolio of $395k (that would be worth $212k if cashed out all at once)  is better than having a $240k LOC that costs $7,650 after tax to service annually and a $304k portfolio (that would be worth about $265k if cashed out all at once).

If, however, your MTR is lower when you cash out (e.g. &lt; 30%), then the advantage swings to the RRSP investment - especially if you can get rid of the HELOC quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a response to Kris B&#8217;s intriguing thought.  Instead of borrowing home equity as it accumulates to invest in a non-registered portfolio, borrow to invest in an RRSP, and apply the full refund to the mortgage.  This uses a readvanceable mortgage so there is a lot of flexibility to do this as each payment is applied.</p>
<p>So, I tweaked my SM Calculator to allow for this scenario.  Here is what I found:</p>
<p>Inputs</p>
<p>- $300,000 House Value<br />
- $240,000 Mortgage @ 5%<br />
- $1,395.85 monthly payments amortized over 25 years<br />
- 8% investment growth rate<br />
- 5.75% HELOC rate<br />
- Marginal Tax Rate of 46.41%</p>
<p>It should be noted that higher MTR&#8217;s make the case for investing into an RRSP more favourable when compared to the &#8216;traditional&#8217; SM.</p>
<p>Here are the outputs:</p>
<p>With SM -<br />
- Mtg is retired in 21 years<br />
- $240k HELOC that is TAX DEDUCTIBLE<br />
- investment portfolio of $304,142 that is NON-REGISTERED<br />
- Adjusted cost base (not including commissions) of $138,516</p>
<p>With RRSP<br />
- Mtg is retired in 18.25 years.  Therefore, run the scenario until 21 years still making &#8216;mortgage payments&#8217; but the money now goes to paying the HELOC interest and anything left goes into RRSP.<br />
- $240k HELOC that is NOT TAX DEDUCTIBLE<br />
- investment portfolio of $395,143 that is in an RRSP</p>
<p>Assuming the same MTR as used above, the net of it is whether a $240k LOC that costs $13,800 after tax to service annually and a fully taxable portfolio of $395k (that would be worth $212k if cashed out all at once)  is better than having a $240k LOC that costs $7,650 after tax to service annually and a $304k portfolio (that would be worth about $265k if cashed out all at once).</p>
<p>If, however, your MTR is lower when you cash out (e.g. &lt; 30%), then the advantage swings to the RRSP investment &#8211; especially if you can get rid of the HELOC quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sukh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here Sue. I am still learning. Hope you make the good decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here Sue. I am still learning. Hope you make the good decision.</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi sukh i think interest only mortgage is much better then heloc cos u will get better rate on interest only. heloc is good when interest rate is high even with interest only we can get 100,000 loan and do the same thing with u told to make it tax-decductable. rest u might be knowing better cos i m still learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi sukh i think interest only mortgage is much better then heloc cos u will get better rate on interest only. heloc is good when interest rate is high even with interest only we can get 100,000 loan and do the same thing with u told to make it tax-decductable. rest u might be knowing better cos i m still learning.</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interest only mortgage is much better then heloc cos u will get better rate on interest only. heloc is good when interest rate is high even with interest only we can get 100,000 loan and do the same thing with u told to make it tax-decductable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interest only mortgage is much better then heloc cos u will get better rate on interest only. heloc is good when interest rate is high even with interest only we can get 100,000 loan and do the same thing with u told to make it tax-decductable.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sukh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diifference in the sense that. If we are going with Variable or Fixed Mortgage we are lets say pay $2000 per month. But if we go with HELOC we might be paying around $1400 or less. So, the rest of 600 we can invest it every month. Or we can take investment loan of $100,000 who&#039;s monthly payment will be around 400$ during current market conditions. All the intrest you will pay on your Investment loan will be tax-deductable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diifference in the sense that. If we are going with Variable or Fixed Mortgage we are lets say pay $2000 per month. But if we go with HELOC we might be paying around $1400 or less. So, the rest of 600 we can invest it every month. Or we can take investment loan of $100,000 who&#8217;s monthly payment will be around 400$ during current market conditions. All the intrest you will pay on your Investment loan will be tax-deductable.</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do u think about interest only mortgage.....pay only interest and invest the differance....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do u think about interest only mortgage&#8230;..pay only interest and invest the differance&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sukh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks David!

I am just a rookie. I just graduated from college. So, I have long way to go. Thanks for the feedback, I will definitely look for &quot;Tax deductible mortgage&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David!</p>
<p>I am just a rookie. I just graduated from college. So, I have long way to go. Thanks for the feedback, I will definitely look for &#8220;Tax deductible mortgage&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DAvid</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAvid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sukh: You should do more research. There are more cost effective ways to accomplish the goals you express in your note.

You might start looking for &quot;tax deductible mortgage&quot; to begin.

DAvid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sukh: You should do more research. There are more cost effective ways to accomplish the goals you express in your note.</p>
<p>You might start looking for &#8220;tax deductible mortgage&#8221; to begin.</p>
<p>DAvid</p>
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		<title>By: Sukh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sukh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this discussion. I have another idea. Instead of paying Interest + Principle payment. We just pay interest payment and take a investment loan and pay interest for that loan from the principle amount which we are not paying. On the other hand, goverment gives tax- benefit if we take investment loans. So, instead of just paying money into your mortgage and loosing the value to inflation over time. This way we can save for the retierment and pay off mortgage with the same amount. This is the only way we can get tax- benefit from the goverment on the same mortgage where we don&#039;t get if we do it in conventional way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this discussion. I have another idea. Instead of paying Interest + Principle payment. We just pay interest payment and take a investment loan and pay interest for that loan from the principle amount which we are not paying. On the other hand, goverment gives tax- benefit if we take investment loans. So, instead of just paying money into your mortgage and loosing the value to inflation over time. This way we can save for the retierment and pay off mortgage with the same amount. This is the only way we can get tax- benefit from the goverment on the same mortgage where we don&#8217;t get if we do it in conventional way.</p>
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		<title>By: 2invest</title>
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		<dc:creator>2invest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link.
http://www.taxtips.ca/calculators/RRSPvsMtgCalc.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link.<br />
<a href="http://www.taxtips.ca/calculators/RRSPvsMtgCalc.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.taxtips.ca/calculators/RRSPvsMtgCalc.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: 2invest</title>
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		<dc:creator>2invest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a really comprehensive calculator. Enjoy. 
Of course anybody that didn&#039;t get to invest but was paying down the mortgage instead just now had the chance to go back ten years in time and start, investment years that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a really comprehensive calculator. Enjoy.<br />
Of course anybody that didn&#8217;t get to invest but was paying down the mortgage instead just now had the chance to go back ten years in time and start, investment years that is.</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>noblea,

threethings wrote that he had already enough down payment for a regular mortgage so I assumed that meant he wouldn&#039;t need CMHC regardless.  

Even at 7% the interest saved is only $28,000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>noblea,</p>
<p>threethings wrote that he had already enough down payment for a regular mortgage so I assumed that meant he wouldn&#8217;t need CMHC regardless.  </p>
<p>Even at 7% the interest saved is only $28,000</p>
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		<title>By: nobleea</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobleea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DK;

For a fair comparison, you&#039;d need to include the impact of the CMHC premiums.  If, for example, the extra RRSP HBP withdrawal meant no premiums were necessary, then the CMHC premiums and interest on those premiums need to be included.  Since the premiums are based on a percentage of the mortgage value, this could be a significant amount.

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to assume a 4.5% mortgage rate over 30 years.  The long term average is somewhere between 6 and 7 % I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DK;</p>
<p>For a fair comparison, you&#8217;d need to include the impact of the CMHC premiums.  If, for example, the extra RRSP HBP withdrawal meant no premiums were necessary, then the CMHC premiums and interest on those premiums need to be included.  Since the premiums are based on a percentage of the mortgage value, this could be a significant amount.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to assume a 4.5% mortgage rate over 30 years.  The long term average is somewhere between 6 and 7 % I think.</p>
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