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		<title>By: BGone</title>
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		<dc:creator>BGone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A representative at the local West Coast Toyota dealer in the Metro Vancouver region told me each deposit only takes 0.01% off the lease rate. Was that a mistake, or is this 0.20% per deposit not available in BC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A representative at the local West Coast Toyota dealer in the Metro Vancouver region told me each deposit only takes 0.01% off the lease rate. Was that a mistake, or is this 0.20% per deposit not available in BC?</p>
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		<title>By: MStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>MStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>food - I totally agree with you!

The only way to win financially in the &#039;car game&#039; is to buy 1-3 yrs old...Dont pay for the high depreciation in the first few years. Especially if your going for a honda/toyota that last forever...the 1st few years are not going to have much wear and tear on the longetivity of the car.

I only buy used (but only 1-3 yrs old...so it look and drives pretty new to me)..b/c at the end of the day...they are not assets (in my def&#039;n anyway) b/c they depreciate and take money out of my pocket monthly (maintenance,etc).

Although, if you are looking at the utility (or statisfaction) instead of finanically wise...then I can understand the notion of leasing a &#039;brand new&#039; car. And thats fine as long as you recognize financially its not the greatest move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>food &#8211; I totally agree with you!</p>
<p>The only way to win financially in the &#8216;car game&#8217; is to buy 1-3 yrs old&#8230;Dont pay for the high depreciation in the first few years. Especially if your going for a honda/toyota that last forever&#8230;the 1st few years are not going to have much wear and tear on the longetivity of the car.</p>
<p>I only buy used (but only 1-3 yrs old&#8230;so it look and drives pretty new to me)..b/c at the end of the day&#8230;they are not assets (in my def&#8217;n anyway) b/c they depreciate and take money out of my pocket monthly (maintenance,etc).</p>
<p>Although, if you are looking at the utility (or statisfaction) instead of finanically wise&#8230;then I can understand the notion of leasing a &#8216;brand new&#8217; car. And thats fine as long as you recognize financially its not the greatest move.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M - I totally agree with you.    

The only trick to do this is to find the least painful way.  It&#039;s interesting that the RAV4 got chosen as the example here!

My wife and I leased a 2008 RAV4 in December 2008 (at the very tail end of the model year) and the lease rate was 1.9% for 3 years.  Our sales rep also informed us about the Multiple Security Deposits program.  When everything is said and done, our lease rate went down to 0.1% - essentially an interest free
loan!

We will buy out our RAV4 at the end of the term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M &#8211; I totally agree with you.    </p>
<p>The only trick to do this is to find the least painful way.  It&#8217;s interesting that the RAV4 got chosen as the example here!</p>
<p>My wife and I leased a 2008 RAV4 in December 2008 (at the very tail end of the model year) and the lease rate was 1.9% for 3 years.  Our sales rep also informed us about the Multiple Security Deposits program.  When everything is said and done, our lease rate went down to 0.1% &#8211; essentially an interest free<br />
loan!</p>
<p>We will buy out our RAV4 at the end of the term.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cars are a losing game, no matter which way you slice it. Pick your poison. In the end they&#039;re still a depreciating asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cars are a losing game, no matter which way you slice it. Pick your poison. In the end they&#8217;re still a depreciating asset.</p>
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		<title>By: food</title>
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		<dc:creator>food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buying and leasing new cars is for suckers.  Let it depreciate for a year, find out if it&#039;s a lemon and then buy or lease it.  I got a three year old car that was originally $50K new for $20K.  My payments are $350 on a 48 month and the car is beautiful after one year so far.  Have done nothing but change the oil and it works great.  I drive too many miles to give it back in the end but my buyout is $6500.  I am fairly certain I can get somewhere close to this in three more years.  I may have to do the brakes and some minor suspension work but as far as I&#039;m concerned I could have gotten a new civic or a sightly used (50 Kms) luxury sedan for the same price if not better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buying and leasing new cars is for suckers.  Let it depreciate for a year, find out if it&#8217;s a lemon and then buy or lease it.  I got a three year old car that was originally $50K new for $20K.  My payments are $350 on a 48 month and the car is beautiful after one year so far.  Have done nothing but change the oil and it works great.  I drive too many miles to give it back in the end but my buyout is $6500.  I am fairly certain I can get somewhere close to this in three more years.  I may have to do the brakes and some minor suspension work but as far as I&#8217;m concerned I could have gotten a new civic or a sightly used (50 Kms) luxury sedan for the same price if not better.</p>
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		<title>By: Briefcases</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briefcases</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting strategy.  I have always been taught that leasing a car is a bad idea.  Financing a car always seemed to make more sense.  Still if leasing makes more sense for your situation, it is good to know how to save some money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting strategy.  I have always been taught that leasing a car is a bad idea.  Financing a car always seemed to make more sense.  Still if leasing makes more sense for your situation, it is good to know how to save some money.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting -- I&#039;m pretty sure we didn&#039;t put down a security deposit at all on our leased car. We ran the numbers, though, and found leasing to be the cheapest option as long as we buy it out with a lump sum at the end. This was partly because we don&#039;t pay interest on the full remainder value of the car and the interest rate was not only the same as financing (1.8%), but also much lower than we could get by putting the lump sum for the remainder in a GIC (4.4%), so we made more money putting that lump sum away for the four years to buy out the lease than by putting it down to purchase the car up front. We were also looking at a car with very high resale value (Subaru), so it didn&#039;t save us much to buy a slightly used one and we wouldn&#039;t have the &quot;incentive&quot; interest rate (a result of buying a 2006 model in August 2006, right after the 2007s came out) or that extra couple years of warranty. 

Of course, since we&#039;re planning to buy it out, we&#039;re not too concerned about going over the kms (not a chance anyhow) or that little scratch on the bumper!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8212; I&#8217;m pretty sure we didn&#8217;t put down a security deposit at all on our leased car. We ran the numbers, though, and found leasing to be the cheapest option as long as we buy it out with a lump sum at the end. This was partly because we don&#8217;t pay interest on the full remainder value of the car and the interest rate was not only the same as financing (1.8%), but also much lower than we could get by putting the lump sum for the remainder in a GIC (4.4%), so we made more money putting that lump sum away for the four years to buy out the lease than by putting it down to purchase the car up front. We were also looking at a car with very high resale value (Subaru), so it didn&#8217;t save us much to buy a slightly used one and we wouldn&#8217;t have the &#8220;incentive&#8221; interest rate (a result of buying a 2006 model in August 2006, right after the 2007s came out) or that extra couple years of warranty. </p>
<p>Of course, since we&#8217;re planning to buy it out, we&#8217;re not too concerned about going over the kms (not a chance anyhow) or that little scratch on the bumper!</p>
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		<title>By: cannon_fodder</title>
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		<dc:creator>cannon_fodder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think another advantage to leasing a car is if you are unsure you are going to like it for the long term or you anticipate changes to your household.

For example, you&#039;ve never owned a convertible and aren&#039;t sure if the romance will quickly wear off - especially in the winter.  With a lease you can decide to walk away and not have the hassle of finding another buyer. On the other hand, if you truly enjoy your vehicle the buyout option is usually better for you than just walking away.

Another example would be if you weren&#039;t sure whether you were going to start a family.  A coupe is not practical with small children and the leasing arrangement can make it easier for you to either walk away or even work with the dealer on rearranging a lease for a more suitable form of transportation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think another advantage to leasing a car is if you are unsure you are going to like it for the long term or you anticipate changes to your household.</p>
<p>For example, you&#8217;ve never owned a convertible and aren&#8217;t sure if the romance will quickly wear off &#8211; especially in the winter.  With a lease you can decide to walk away and not have the hassle of finding another buyer. On the other hand, if you truly enjoy your vehicle the buyout option is usually better for you than just walking away.</p>
<p>Another example would be if you weren&#8217;t sure whether you were going to start a family.  A coupe is not practical with small children and the leasing arrangement can make it easier for you to either walk away or even work with the dealer on rearranging a lease for a more suitable form of transportation.</p>
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		<title>By: used tires</title>
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		<dc:creator>used tires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never been a big fan of Leasing a car... but is it possible for a normal consumer to be able to benefit from taxes from leasing a car as well? Because I&#039;ve heard that it might also be a tax advantage to not only as a business owner as you mention, but also as an individual, is this true?

Till then,

Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been a big fan of Leasing a car&#8230; but is it possible for a normal consumer to be able to benefit from taxes from leasing a car as well? Because I&#8217;ve heard that it might also be a tax advantage to not only as a business owner as you mention, but also as an individual, is this true?</p>
<p>Till then,</p>
<p>Jean</p>
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		<title>By: carmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought this post was very helpful. my first car is leased and it&#039;s the only way i think i will go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought this post was very helpful. my first car is leased and it&#8217;s the only way i think i will go.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I leased a car for the first time 2 years ago. I do take very good care of  my vehicles, but thanks to others in parking lots there are scratches and dings all over the place,plus the car is black which makes the scratches look even worse. I know that when I take it back I&quot;m either going to have to pay up, or buy the car out and fix it up to resell or keep.

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll lease again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I leased a car for the first time 2 years ago. I do take very good care of  my vehicles, but thanks to others in parking lots there are scratches and dings all over the place,plus the car is black which makes the scratches look even worse. I know that when I take it back I&#8221;m either going to have to pay up, or buy the car out and fix it up to resell or keep.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll lease again.</p>
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		<title>By: John DeFlumeri Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>John DeFlumeri Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks, I&#039;ll try that one nxt month when I get the new car!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, I&#8217;ll try that one nxt month when I get the new car!</p>
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		<title>By: Canada Deals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canada Deals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both my husband and I drive leased vehicles and we wouldn&#039;t do it any other way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both my husband and I drive leased vehicles and we wouldn&#8217;t do it any other way.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other option you can undertake is to pay yourself a tax-free mileage allowance instead of writing off the lease.  Provided that the rate is based on kms travelled for business purposes and &lt;= the proscribed rate by the CRA then its tax-free in the hands of the recipient.

I walked into my local Toyota and Subaru dealers today and both of them were trying to talk me into a no down payment, no cash at signing lease.  The nothing down portion scares me for some unknown reason, beyond just higher monthly payments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other option you can undertake is to pay yourself a tax-free mileage allowance instead of writing off the lease.  Provided that the rate is based on kms travelled for business purposes and &lt;= the proscribed rate by the CRA then its tax-free in the hands of the recipient.</p>
<p>I walked into my local Toyota and Subaru dealers today and both of them were trying to talk me into a no down payment, no cash at signing lease.  The nothing down portion scares me for some unknown reason, beyond just higher monthly payments</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Save Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Save Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting - I&#039;ve never leased a car before because I&#039;d just rather have my own car. But this is a good tip for anyone who likes to drive new cars every few years or just for those who are travelers and don&#039;t stick around too long in one area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8211; I&#8217;ve never leased a car before because I&#8217;d just rather have my own car. But this is a good tip for anyone who likes to drive new cars every few years or just for those who are travelers and don&#8217;t stick around too long in one area.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My spouse and I entered into a lease arrangement at GM for a small Optra car, just for farting around and getting to and from work.  Personally, I feel it makes sense if you can minimize your cash outflow stream and if you expect to have low mileage. That way, if both heads of the household are working full-time and time is limited, you have bumper to bumper coverage for most of the duration of the lease.

From what I can gather, some dealerships don&#039;t even offer lease arrangements anymore so some of these opportunities are dying out. Personally, I would not want to enter a lease arrangement with a big ticket item, such as a heavy duty pick-up truck where you have payments of over $600/month. Our Chevy Optra runs us $279 bones a month and we have less than 10,000km clocked in 3 years. That way, when the four year lease is up this upcoming summer, we can opt to buy it out fully and then resell it at a better price, or simply keep it given the shape its in. I also find that if you&#039;re buying a lemon, you will find out in the first year or so what you bought. 

Depending on one&#039;s location, time estimated for use of the vehicle, monthly amount to be paid, and time constraints in general, a lease arrangement may be advantageous. Otherwise, simply buying it out could be an option. Derek Foster offers a loan option whereby one can borrow funds to buy a vehicle and the dividends accumulated pay for the expenses. I guess its a real possibility, but that avenue may not always be realistic or comfortable for some.


Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My spouse and I entered into a lease arrangement at GM for a small Optra car, just for farting around and getting to and from work.  Personally, I feel it makes sense if you can minimize your cash outflow stream and if you expect to have low mileage. That way, if both heads of the household are working full-time and time is limited, you have bumper to bumper coverage for most of the duration of the lease.</p>
<p>From what I can gather, some dealerships don&#8217;t even offer lease arrangements anymore so some of these opportunities are dying out. Personally, I would not want to enter a lease arrangement with a big ticket item, such as a heavy duty pick-up truck where you have payments of over $600/month. Our Chevy Optra runs us $279 bones a month and we have less than 10,000km clocked in 3 years. That way, when the four year lease is up this upcoming summer, we can opt to buy it out fully and then resell it at a better price, or simply keep it given the shape its in. I also find that if you&#8217;re buying a lemon, you will find out in the first year or so what you bought. </p>
<p>Depending on one&#8217;s location, time estimated for use of the vehicle, monthly amount to be paid, and time constraints in general, a lease arrangement may be advantageous. Otherwise, simply buying it out could be an option. Derek Foster offers a loan option whereby one can borrow funds to buy a vehicle and the dividends accumulated pay for the expenses. I guess its a real possibility, but that avenue may not always be realistic or comfortable for some.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, good point never thought of that.  If the driver does get into an accident though and repairs the car to an acceptable condition, are they eligible to get their security deposit then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, good point never thought of that.  If the driver does get into an accident though and repairs the car to an acceptable condition, are they eligible to get their security deposit then?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig:  That&#039;s what I was thinking.  Am I missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig:  That&#8217;s what I was thinking.  Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason I would say to decrease the security deposit is because if you leave a high deposit, then get into an accident that totals the car, you lose out on that deposit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason I would say to decrease the security deposit is because if you leave a high deposit, then get into an accident that totals the car, you lose out on that deposit.</p>
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		<title>By: FrugalTrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noob, thanks for the clarification.  Yes, if the car is used heavily for personal mixed with business, then it may be your best bet to claim the mileage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noob, thanks for the clarification.  Yes, if the car is used heavily for personal mixed with business, then it may be your best bet to claim the mileage.</p>
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